Scalloway, January 22, 1872, ISABELLA HENDERSON, examined.
11,624. You live in Scalloway with your father and sister?-Yes.
11,625. Is your father an old man?-Yes. He is between sixty and seventy years old. He is not fit to work much, but he goes to sea occasionally in fine weather.
11,626. Do you and your sister chiefly support the family by your knitting and other work?-Yes.
11,627. Do you require cash sometimes for your rent and provisions?-Yes.
11,628. Have you a little bit of ground?-Yes. We have a small bit from the farmers during the season for potatoes.
11,629. Where do you generally sell your veils?-We just sell them to any of the merchants. We make them chiefly with our own wool, but sometimes we get worsted given out to us from Mr.
Sinclair and Mr. Arthur Laurenson.
11,630. Have you accounts with these merchants?-Yes. We always had accounts when we got out worsted from them.
11,631. When you knit for them with their worsted, are you paid in goods?-Yes.
11,632. And also when you sell an article of your own?-Yes.
11,633. Have you ever got any money from them?-No.
11,634. Have you ever asked for it?-Yes. It is some time ago, but I asked once or twice, and was refused. After that I was accustomed to get nothing but tea or soft goods, or anything else they had in the shop, and I did not ask for money again.
11,635. Did they ever ask you to take a less price when you asked for money?-No.
11,636. Did they never offer to give you money if you would take less for your goods?-No
11,637. Have you ever had to exchange your goods for provisions?-Often. I have done that with several people.
Sometimes, when I sold my veils, I would have to take a line from Mr. Sinclair; and if I knew any person who was requiring such goods as Mr. Sinclair kept, I would sell the line to them, and they would go to Lerwick with it and get what they wanted.
11,638. Who have you bartered your lines with in that way?-I am not inclined to tell their names, because it was done to me as a favour, and they did not wish it to be made known. I may say, however, that I have given the soft goods to Mrs. Tait in Charles Nicholson"s shop.
11,639. Was Mrs. Tait always ready to take your goods?-She was not very ready, but when she saw it was necessary, she would do it out of kindness.
11,640. When you dispose of your goods in that way, do you generally get the full value for them?-Not always.
11,641. You have to take a little off them in order to get what you want?-Yes.
11,642. Do you do that several times in the year?-I do it very often.
11,643. Do you know that other knitters have to do the same thing?-Very likely they do. I believe there are others who have to do it besides me.
11,644. Have you often given away your lines in the way you have mentioned?-Yes, very often.
11,645. Do you make a practice of it?-Yes, I have had to do it.
11,646. Do you get a great number of lines in the course of the year?-Sometimes; not a great many. I just get them as I require them.
11,647. What do you get for the lines when you part with them in the way you have mentioned?-I have got money, and sometimes provisions.
11,648. Have you got money for a line lately?-Yes, in harvest. It was a line for 7s.
11,649. Did you get 7s. in money for it?-Yes; but when the people came to take the goods, if they did not get them to their own mind, I had to make up whatever loss they had upon them.
11,650. Was that the bargain, that if they did not get their satisfaction in goods, you were to give them back some of the money?-No, not the money. I was just to give them something in addition. Of course, they could not expect the money back from me.
11,651. Did you give them anything back?-They have not sought for it yet, and I cannot say whether they will ask for anything or not.
11,652. Have you always got the full amount of the line in money, when you gave it in that way?-No; not altogether.
11,653. Have you sometimes given it for less than the sum named in it?-Yes.
11,654. For 6d. or 1s. less?-That just depended on the amount of the line. I could not say particularly.
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which you parted with last harvest?-Yes, I got the full value for them, but it was as a favour to me that I got it.
11,656. Can you mention any case in which you got less for a line than the sum that was named in it?-I could not remember any particular case where that happened with a line; but I have often suffered a good deal of loss by the soft goods. On one occasion I lost 1s. 6d. upon 6s. 6d.
11,657. Did you get 6s. 6d. worth of soft goods, and give them away for 5s.?-Yes.
11,658. Did you get 5s. in money?-No; not altogether in money, but partly in meal. They said the cost price of the articles would be 5s, and they gave me that value for them.
11,659. Have you ever given anything back, when the people that you gave the lines to were not able to satisfy themselves at the shop?-Yes, once. I gave them the worth of 1s. in other goods that I had got from the shop.
11,660. What was the value of that line?-I cannot say. The lines I have got have run between 3s. and 10s.; but I could not say the exact amount of that particular line.
11,661. Do you know any people who make a trade of buying goods from the knitters, and selling them through the country?-I could not say that any person makes a trade of it. I don"t think any person would like to do that.
11,662. Are there not some women who hawk goods through the country, which they have got in that way?-I know there are and I have done that myself more than once.
11,663. What have you done more than once?-Taken the soft goods which I got at Lerwick, and gone through the country and sold them. The last time I did that was three years past in spring, and I had done it before.
11,664. Was it in a bad year when you did that?-Yes.
11,665. And you wanted potatoes?-Yes.
11,666. Had you to travel far in order to get them?-Between two and three miles.
11,667. Had you tried often before you got your goods sold?-Not often. Of course, I had spoken to the people before I took the goods to them. I did not go out on the chance of selling them.
11,668. Were the goods taken as a favour to you, and not in the ordinary way of business?-Yes, it was done quite as a favour.
11,669. But do you know any person who travels through the country regularly, and hawks goods which have been bought from the knitters?-I don"t know any person particularly who has done that.
11,670. Have you ever heard that such things were done?-I cannot say that I have.