13,218. I show you an invoice dated 12th May 1870, 1 cask sugar 2 1 25 18 2 1 7 at 42s. 6d.
4, 18s. 4d.
Grutness shop debtor, 6, 1s. 41/4d.
At what price did you sell that sugar per lb.?-I think it was 61/2d.
13,219. What would be the freight of it from Greenock to here?-I could not say. I think Mr. Bruce keeps the freight accounts.
13,220. The sum of 6, 1s. 41/4d. is entered against the shop: is that the sum you were to realize by the sale of that sugar?-Yes.
13,221. Or does it merely indicate the price and the expenses, leaving you to fix the selling price yourself?-No; I think that is what was expected to be realized, and all expenses and inlake have to come off that. I think that is the net sum that must be realized after expenses and inlake.
13,222. Was there no more than that realized from the sugar contained in that invoice?-I could not say. I have not tried that particularly.
13,223. You have shown me two invoices of meal, one August 12th, and the other August 23d, 1870, from Jonathan Mess; one for 10 bolls oatmeal at 19s., and the other for 15 bolls at 17s. 9d.: I suppose the difference in price between these two is to be accounted for by the variation in the market price at that time?- Yes.
13,224. Was that meal which you got in August the dearest purchase of the year?-I don"t remember.
[Produces invoices, showing the following purchases in 1870:- April 1, 25 bolls of oatmeal at 15s.
"1,1"" "15s.
"22,20"" "15s. 6d.
June3,40"" "16s. 3d.
"14,60"" "16s. 3d.
Aug. 12,10"" "19s.
" 23,15"" "17s. 9d.
Those are the prices at Aberdeen, exclusive of the cost for bags, which were charged separately.]
13,225. Was that the whole supply of meal for 1870?-Yes.
13,226. Had you a stock in hand at the beginning of the year?- None.
13,227. I think you said before that you had very few sales before April?-Yes; we do very little in meal before the fishing begins.
13,228. What quality of oatmeal is contained in these invoices?- It is meal ground entirely from Scotch home-grown oats. A great part of the meal that comes to this country is grown from foreign oats, and is not nearly so good, and it can be bought far cheaper.
13,229. Was the oatmeal of the best quality which you sold for 5s.
4d. per lispund, or 5s. 6d. per quarter boll?-Yes.
13,230. Do you know anything about the freights from Aberdeen?-I think Mr. Bruce will be better able to speak to that than I can.
13,231. You get your tobacco from Mr. Henry Christie, Edinburgh?-Yes.
13,232. Have you charge of the despatch of goods to Fair Isle when they are required?-Yes. When the vessel is going I supply the man"s orders if the things are in Mr. Bruce"s shop. At times we have to buy trifling things at other shops to supply the people with.
13,233. I noticed in your Fair Isle order-book an entry of 2 cwt.
soap ordered from Hedly & Co., Newcastle, on 30th August 1871: at what price would that be retailed in Fair Isle?-At 6d. per lb.
13,234. Have you the invoice price of that?-No, not in 1871: but it was very similar to the price in 1870. We generally got the finest extra pale brown soap. [Produces invoice of 18th August 1870, showing the price of soap at that time to be 28s. per cwt.]
13,235. In the same order-book there is an entry of 4 cwt. soft sugar, ordered on 30th August 1871 for Fair Isle: at what rate would that be sold there?-If it is the same quality as ours, it would very likely be sold at 7d.; it would be at least a halfpenny dearer in Fair Isle, to cover the expense of freight.
13,236. But you don"t know what was the quality of sugar that you sent to Fair Isle in August 1871?-No; we never break up the casks, but the quality ordered would be the same as the common brown which we order for ourselves.
13,237. Are the whole supplies to Fair Isle furnished by Mr.
Bruce?-He generally furnishes what is ordered by the factor.
13,238. Do you know whether the factor has instructions to prevent any one else from trading with the inhabitants?-I don"t think he has very positive instructions on the subject, because he could not prevent it. Mr. Bruce and I were there this year, and at that time two vessels came to trade. We saw them there, but could not prevent them. One pretty large sloop came down from Westray, belonging to a man called Luggie; and Rendall came also and traded during the whole night when I was asleep. We did not know that he was doing anything until he was under weigh, and when the vessel was off we saw that he had half-a-dozen cattle on board. Rendall goes from house to house [Page 328] on the island, and trades with the people just like a hawker.
13,239. Are the inhabitants prohibited from selling their cattle to Rendall, or to any other outside trader?-I think they were made aware that Mr. Bruce wanted the preference of the cattle from people who were in debt; but it is generally those individuals who are in debt who try to slip off their cattle in that way when they have a beast to dispose of. The people who are well to do on the island give Mr. Bruce the preference willingly.
13,240. Do you purchase cattle for Mr. Bruce?-Merely in the way of business. He was in the south when the public sales took place this year, and I and his grieve did purchase a few beasts for him.
Our only object in doing so was to keep up the sales, so that the tenants might get a better price for their cattle.
13,241. Like other merchants in Shetland, does Mr. Bruce purchase a number of cattle for re-sale?-No: he never drives a trade of that kind. He has four cattle sales in the year, and he buys his cattle generally at these sales: which have been the means of keeping up the price of cattle in this end of the country ever since he began them.
13,242. Are cattle frequently taken by Mr. Bruce in liquidation of a debt due by a tenant?-Those tenants who are in debt, and who have cattle, are generally requested to bring them to a public sale.
13,243. When a man is in arrear, is he asked to do that?-Yes, when he has a beast to dispose of. These are Mr. Bruce"s instructions.
13,244. Do you recollect one Thomas Wilson in Fair Isle being forbidden to sell a cow to Rendall?-The factor may have forbidden him, but, so far as I know, neither Mr. Bruce nor I did so.
13,245. Did you know of a cow of Thomas Wilson"s being brought over and sold here for 4, 1s.?-Yes. I remember that transaction quite well, for he wanted me to buy the cow for Mr. Bruce; but I thought as he had come out of the island with her himself, the best way to give him a fair chance of selling his cow was to allow him to take her to the public sale and put her up to auction. He said he had had an offer of 5, 10s. from Rendall, but I said I did not think the animal was worth it.
13,246. Do you think he was really offered 5, 10s.?-It was 4, 10s. he said he was offered, and Mr. Bruce of Vinsgarth bought the cow for 4, 1s. at the sale.
13,247. Then he only lost 9s. by not taking Rendall"s offer?-Yes; and I only had his own word for it, that he had been offered that.
13,248. Are you quite sure it was not 5, 10s. that Wilson said he had been offered?-Yes, I am sure it was 4, 10s.
13,249. Did she not look like a cow that anybody would offer 5, 10s. for?-No: she was sold too high as it was. I bought far cheaper cattle than that for Mr. Bruce. When the cow was sold Wilson was quite satisfied with the price
13,250. Would you be surprised to hear that the meal at Grutness is very often sold at 4s. a boll dearer than the same meal had been got for in Lerwick?-I would be rather surprised at that. It cannot be the same quality of meal if that is the case.
13,251. Do you say that it is not the case?-I cannot say what they may sell their meal for at Lerwick. The men sometimes go to Lerwick with money, and bargain to get goods under the market price. I have seen that done, and a handle of that may be made in Lerwick.
13,252. Are you aware whether the tenants on the Sumburgh estate have been offered leases and refused them?-Yes.
13,253. If they had got leases, would they have released them from the obligation to fish for their landlord?-I don"t think Mr. Bruce would have given lease of that kind unless he had raised the rents on his property, because it is on account of the fishing that he does not raise them as it is.
13,254. Do you understand that the farms are let at a lower rent in consequence of the men being obliged to fish?-Yes. I think Mr.
Bruce would get higher rents if that was not the case.
13,255. Do you know whether these [showing paper headed, "Rules for the better management of the Sumburgh estate"] are the rules that were laid down for the management of the property?-Yes.
13,256. I believe very few of the men have accepted them?-None at all, to my knowledge.
13,257. But that contains no obligation about fishing?-No; but the thing in it which the men object to is the last paragraph: "Subject to the above rules, the landlord reserves right to take into his own hands any part of his estate at any time on giving the tenant legal notice." The men object to that, and I think I would do the same if I was taking a lease.