1151. But in what way did you become bound? Did you merely promise by word of mouth that you would pay it?-Yes; we had to become good for it.
1152. But you did not sign any agreement?-No; we handed over the money-the sum of 6.
1153. Was that money which you had earned?-Yes.
1154. Was it due to you in your account with Messrs. Hay?-No; I had it in my pocket. I had saved it in other employments.
1155. Then you had no difficulty in getting money for your wages when you wanted it? You were not obliged to take your wages in goods?-No, not our wages; but we have to take the proceeds of our fishing in that way, to a certain extent. They will give us part of that in goods.
1156. Is that the proceeds of the Faroe fishing?-No; of the home fishing.
1157. In the Faroe fishing, what arrangement do you make about the payment of your share?-We can get it all in money if we choose to have it.
1158. You have been at the Faroe fishing?-Yes.
1159. There is no difficulty in that fishing in getting cash at the end of the season?-No; not at the settling times, which take place once a year.
1160. How do you do about your supplies for the Faroe fishing?- We generally apply for them to the merchant we fish for.
1161. And you get a supply from him of provisions, clothing, fishing material, and everything you require?-Yes.
1162. That is marked down against you in the book, and deducted from the price of your fish at the end of the season?-Yes.
1163. Is the price for these fish fixed only at settling time?-Yes.
1164. Who does the boat belong to in which you go to the Faroe fishing?-I have been at that fishing for different owners.
1165. Does the boat always belong to the merchant, or does it sometimes belong to the men themselves?-No; it always belongs to the merchant.
1166. But the whole material required for that fishing, except the boat, belongs to the men?-Yes; and it is purchased by them from the shipowner. We have to find our hooks and lines and provisions. That is all we have to find, the owner finds the rest.
1167. Are you a married man?-Yes, I have a wife and two children.
1168. How are your family supported during your absence at the Faroe fishing? Where do they get their supplies?-They can get them in the owner"s store if they require them, but, for myself, I do not require to go there. I can get them at any place I please.
1169. Is it a common thing for the other men who go to the Faroe fishing, to buy their goods at the owners store?-When they don"t have money to buy them at other places, they go there for them.
1170. But is that a common thing?-I cannot say exactly. I suppose it is not uncommon.
1171. Does it often happen that a man employed in the Faroe fishing finds an account against him in the owner"s store for provisions at settling time as large as the amount which he has to receive for his fishing?-I am not acquainted with that myself.
1172. When you are away at the Faroe fishing, and your family have occasion for money, is there any difficulty in getting it from the parties who employ you?-Not if they know we have money to get. If we have a balance in our favour, they are not against giving it.
1173. How long are you generally absent at that fishing?- Sometimes six months, sometimes seven, and sometimes as low as three months.
1174. Suppose you had been away from home for two or three months, there would certainly be two or three months take of fish, if it was a middling season, for which money would be due to you?-Yes.
1175. Would your wife at home be able to get an advance of money from the merchant in that case, if she required it for the support of the family?-Yes.
1176. There is no difficulty made about that?-No.
1177. Is it a common thing in Shetland for a man"s wife to get such advances of money during his absence-Yes, they would get a small sum of money, but the merchant would prefer them to take goods.
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1178. If she comes for the money is she ever told to take it in goods; or is there any understanding that she is to take it in goods?-I cannot answer that, because I am not acquainted with what goes on while I am away. I can only speak to what has come within my own experience.
Lerwick, January 2, 1872, GILBERT GOODLAD, examined.
1179. You are a fisherman in Burra, and you hold land there under Messrs. Hay?-Yes.
1180. You have been present during the examination of the previous witnesses?-Yes.
1181. Do you agree with most of what Williamson and Smith have said?-Yes.
1182. Is it all correct?-Yes; all correct.
1183. You generally go to the Faroe fishing?-I do.
1184. How long may you be absent at that fishing?-It just depends upon the season: sometimes we may be away for perhaps four months. We are generally home once in the middle of the time. We are sometimes we may be away longer than four months, sometimes not so long ago.
1185. What merchants have you generally engaged with?-I have engaged with a great many merchants in Shetland.
1186. There has been no objection made to your going with any merchant you liked?-No.
1187. Messrs. Hay have not objected to that?-No. They might not have been requiring me when I was going, and therefore I could go where I liked.
1188. When you go there, how do you arrange for your family to be supplied during your absence?-The merchant supplies them during my absence.
1189. What merchant?-Whatever owner I am out for.
1190. When your wife wants supplies, does she go to his shop for them?-Yes.
1191. If she wants money, does she ask it from him too?-She may, but sometimes she has been refused it. They are not willing to give money. If they think we are doing well at the fishing, they will advance her a little money; but if they think we are not succeeding well, they will not give it, because they would think then that we might come to be in their debt.
1192. Is there any communication with the vessels when they are at the fishing?-Yes. Some of the vessels may go home and come back again, or an accident may occur on board of one of them, and she may go home and give an account of how the fishing is going on. They may also send letters from Faroe, by Denmark, to Shetland; so that there are several ways of communicating from there to here.
1193. Who are some of the parties with whom you have shipped for the Faroe fishing?-I have been out for Mr. Garriock in Reawick, Mr. Garriock in Lerwick, Mr. Leask, and Messrs. Hay.
1194. But, whoever you go out for, your wife generally goes to their shop for her supplies?-She is obliged to go there, if we have no other means to live on.
1195. Can you tell me one occasion on which she went and was refused money, or on which you have asked them to give her money and it has been refused?-I am not quite sure that there has been any occasion of that kind, because we know that if we are not fishing well, we need not ask for money.
1196. Have you been told that by any of the shopkeepers?-I have seen it, and experienced it.
1197. When, and how?-Even during the last season with the Faroe fishing, there were some of the merchants who would not make an advance to the people when they required it.
1198. Did they require to get an advance of money?-They might try to live on through the season without money, and they might have done it if they could only have got some meal and some bread to live upon.