6672. But if she had cash, she might purchase her goods in Lerwick or in Edinburgh, or possibly, if the trade were not in so few hands, there might be a greater compet.i.tion?-There might.
6673. And she could lay out her cash in the way that was most to her own advantage?-That might be so; but then I would not give her so much in cash for her hosiery, so that I don"t see where her gain would be.
6674. Is it mostly in provisions or in goods that the hosiery is paid?-I should say that it is mostly in goods.
6675. Is the account which a woman, knitting in that way, runs up entirely distinct from the account kept by her parents?-Quite distinct.
6676. If she is living in family with her father, is he considered responsible for her debt if the balance is against her?-No.
6677. Have you known any case of such a debt being enforced against the father?-I am not aware of any, and I don"t think it could be enforced against him.
6678. Or demanded from him?-I don"t think it could be demanded either, legally. But the necessity does not exist for girls buying groceries. These are generally bought by the father or brothers; and the girl is left free to have her knitting to clothe herself with. It is all the wages she gets.
6679. Show me the way in which the women"s book is kept?- [Produces women"s book]
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6680. Each woman has her name entered there, and on one side of the account are entered the articles which she gets?-Yes.
6681. I see that some women make home-spun tweed?-Yes
6682. Do you purchase a quant.i.ty of that also?-Yes.
6683. Is it also paid for in goods?-No; it is paid for in cash if required.
6684. But at a cash price?-Yes.
6685. In this case [showing] it was entered in the book?-Yes.
6686. Was that because the party wanted goods, or was there any particular reason for it?-She was not sure when she gave the tweed, whether she might require the whole of it in goods. She wanted meal, I think, and some other goods.
6687. Are your dealings in cloth with the people the country very extensive?-I buy a good deal of it occasionally, when the trade is brisk.
6688. Is it paid for regularly in cash?-Yes.
6689. Do your purchases of it not appear in this book?-There may be some of them there.
6690. But are the majority of your purchases of that sort of cloth entered here?-Possibly they may appear in the men"s ledger more frequently, unless when the cloth is bought over the counter.
6691. If it is paid for in cash, why does it appear in any ledger?- What is paid for cash does not appear in any ledger.
6692. Does it not appear in your day-book?-No, it does not enter our day-book. We just buy it the same as we buy any hosiery. For instance, if a girl brings it in, she may require the value of it in goods; that is a separate transaction, finished at once, and there is no more trace of it.
6693. Is the cloth almost all of the same quality?-It is all very much the same.
6694. Do you ticket each web at the time when you take it in?- Yes.
6695. Then I understand you to say, that the great bulk of your dealings in cloth are cash transactions?-Yes, I think the bulk of them, or they are settled for at the time in goods.
6696. Is tea a very usual article for the knitters to take out their payments in?-I think it is. They often take tea.
6697. Have you known any cases in which the goods or tea so obtained for hosiery were sold or disposed of for cash?-I think I have not.
6698. It is probably not so necessary for them to do so when they can get provisions for their hosiery, as when they are only paid in soft goods?-Perhaps not; but it is not very likely I would learn that that was done, even if it was the case.
6699. When a woman has sold you some hosiery goods or cloth, and does not want goods in exchange to the full value at the time, is it the practice in your shop to issue any line or acknowledgment for the balance?-I believe that is done occasionally.
6700. Is the line in the form of an order to credit the bearer with so much in goods?-Yes.
6701. Are these lines or vouchers generally brought back by the party to whom they were given?-I think so.
6702. Are they ever brought back by another?-I think not; because we know all the people, and they could not impose on us in that way.
6703. But if the party to whom the line was issued had handed it over for a consideration to another party, that would be no imposition upon you?-No; but still we would know whether it was done or not, that is to say, we would suspect something amiss.
If it was presented by another person than one of the woman"s own family, we would naturally suppose there was something suspicious about it.
6704. Do these lines bear to be payable to any particular person?- Yes; we always mention in them the name of the person who has sold us the goods. However, it is perhaps right to state that that is not very much practised in our shop.
6705. I think you said there were not many little shops in this district?-There are a few. Arthur Harrison has a shop within two miles of me; Laurence Smith has a shop within three miles; and Jack Anderson has a shop within five miles to the westward.
6706. Are all these on the Busta estate?-Yes. Jack Anderson rents a booth belonging to Ollaberry.
6707. Is there any difficulty or any obstruction placed in the way of small shopkeepers getting premises and carrying on their business in this district?-There seems not to have been any lately.
When I took a lease of Hillswick, I thought I had an understanding that Mr. Cheyne was not to put up other places of business in the district, but there was no sort of agreement about it and that understanding has not been acted upon.
6708. Do you refer to shops or fish-curing establishments?-Not fish-curing establishments; there is no restriction upon them.
6709. Any person may set up a business of that sort?-I think so.
6710. You have been present and heard the whole of the evidence that has been given to-day: is there any part of it with regard to which you wish to make any statement or contradiction?-There is nothing that I am aware of.
6711. Are you an agent for the Shipwrecked Mariners" Society?-I am.
6712. Do most of your fishermen subscribe to that society?-A good many of them do.
6713. Is their annual subscription debited to them in their account?-Yes, very frequently.
6714. When they have anything to get from the society, how is that payment settled with them?-That I daresay depends very much upon their own wishes.
6715. Does it depend to any extent on the fact, whether or not they are indebted to you at the time?-I don"t think it does generally.
6716. But it may sometimes?-It may sometimes.
6717. That is to say, supposing a man who loses his boat has a sum to receive in cash from the society, which pa.s.ses through your hands, it may be written down to square off your account?-No. It may be entered to his credit in the account; but I think, if the matter was searched into, it would be found that in that case it was to square off for some boat he had got before, and which he had not paid for.
6718. And not his ordinary shop account?-No.
6719. Therefore, you say that you would retain the money if he was in debt to you for a boat?-Yes.