7051. For whom did you fish when you were at it?-The last time I was at the fishing it was for Mr. Anderson.
7052. Had you generally a balance in cash to get at the end of the year?-Occasionally.
7053. Was there oftener a balance to get, or a balance against you?-There was oftener a balance to get if the seasons turned out good, or if anything occurred to make them good; but when anything took place to render the season a bad one then there was something due and it was put against me.
7054. When you were in debt to Mr. Anderson, was there any necessity for you to engage to him for the following year?-No.
7055. Might you have engaged to anybody you liked?-Yes. I had my freedom; there was no compulsion.
7056. Did you generally engage to him?-Yes.
7057. Was there any other person to whom you could have sold your fish?-Yes; provided it had been necessary for me to have done so; but I saw no occasion for it.
7058. You never wished to do that?-No; not in the least.
7059. Do you think it would be any advantage to the fishermen to have a price fixed for their fish at the beginning of the season, so that they might know what they were to get?-In some seasons it might be, but with the fall and rise in the markets it is so uncertain.
It might be a gain or it might be a loss; they could not tell until the time came for settlement.
7060. I suppose the fishermen have nothing to do with fixing the price of the fish?-No; it has not been customary for them to have anything to do with that.
7061. It has been the practice to leave it altogether to the fish merchant?-Yes; so far as ever I knew.
7062. Are there any complaints about the way in which the price is fixed?-There certainly are some men who make it grievance of it; but they are men who would not be satisfied if the thing were done in any other way.
7063. What do you think about it yourself?-I cannot say.
7064. Have you no opinion about it at all?-Very little. It does not concern me much. I have got too old now to be able to do anything in the way of changing it.
7065. Do any of your family knit?-Yes; but that is it thing I don"t interfere with.
7066. Is it usual for the father of a family not to interfere with his wife and daughters" account for hosiery?-They manage their own affairs and their accounts themselves and we never interfere with them in any way.
7067. Do they sometimes help to keep the house?-Yes; in every way they can.
7068. But do they sometimes help with their hosiery to provide for the house?-Yes; occasionally, when it falls in their way.
7069. In this part of the country I understand they get provisions for their hosiery?-Yes; to a certain extent, when required.
7070. But you have nothing to do with their accounts or their books?-No; I have no concern with them. They see their own books and are satisfied with them.
7071. Does a man"s wife keep her own book for hosiery and settle it herself?-Yes.
7072. Is it the same with the eggs?-Yes.
7073. The wife takes the eggs and sells them, and puts them into her own account?-Yes. She takes them away and brings back any stuff she wishes to get for them. That is the usual practice, and it has been so all my days.
7074. How are the people paid for their eggs? Are they paid in goods?-If they choose they get bread, tea, sugar, or anything else they want; or if they are not pleased to take that, they can get the price.
7075. Would it not be better to get the money for them?-It might be, if there was any need for it; but if they are requiring the goods, I don"t see any use for taking the price and going to another shop with it.
7076. Then, with regard to the fishing, you say that the man who has money to get will get it, but the man who does not have it to get will not get it?-I fished last for Mr. Anderson, that is three years ago, and I have seen me have a good deal to get; but a man who had no cash due to him could not get it. I have been a little in debt sometimes, it was not much, but I could not get any cash until I paid off my debt. I could have got anything I wanted out of the shop, provided it was in small quant.i.ties; and I should have been sorry to look for anything more until the book was clear. When that was done, then I could get it to my satisfaction.
7077. When your book was not clear, would you have considered yourself bound to go to fish for Mr. Anderson until it was clear?- Yes.
7078. You thought it was fair that you should fish for him until your debt was paid?-Yes.
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7079. Did it often happen, in the course of your experience, that you were a little behind in that way?-Yes.
7080. And at such times you always thought it right to go to fish for him?-Yes; so that I might clear it off by my fishing.
7081. Were you ever objected to for selling your fish away from Mr. Anderson?-No.
7082. Did you not require to do that sometimes, in order to get a little cash?-No.
7083. Do you think the fishermen are as well off now as they used to be long ago, or are they better off?-They are much better off now than they were in my young days, because at that time married men who had families only got from 4s. to 6s. for their fish; while young men who were not married, and did not require it so much, got 7s. or 6s. 6d. or 6s. Now they get an equal price, and I think 6s. or 7s. is a good price. When the fishing turns out to be successful, it pays them very well.
7084. Have you always been satisfied with the quality of the things which you got from your fish-merchant"s store?-Yes.
7085. Did you get anything at all at any other store when you were fishing?-No; but I was only a short time at the fishing. I was at sea for fifty years, sailing to Davis Straits and all round the globe, and I only gave that up when I could not go any longer.
7086. How many years were you fishing at the haaf?-Only four years.
7087. You were a sailor in the merchant service before that?- Yes.
7088. Did you go to Greenland too?-Yes; I went twenty-seven voyages to Davis Straits.
7089. Where did you ship for that?-From Lerwick.
7090. Who engaged you there?-There were various agents. I generally engaged with Mr. Hay. I think I went ten or twelve voyages for him.
7091. When did you last go to the whale fishing?-I think it was about 1850 or 1851.
7092. How were the men"s wages paid then?-It was by so much per month and an allowance of oil-money besides.
7093. Did you get an advance when you shipped?-Yes.
7094. And did you get an outfit from the agent who engaged you?-If you required it, it was there for you; and if not, you got your advance, and could take it where you pleased.
7095. Did you generally get your outfit from the agent in Lerwick who engaged you?-Yes.
7096. When you came back from your Greenland voyage, in what way did you settle?-Those who lived at a distance would get 2 or 3 if the voyage had been good, and they had money to get; and then they would go home and come back at Martinmas to settle with the agent. There was an account kept against them in the book which they had to settle at that time.
7097. What quant.i.ty of goods did you generally have in your account with the agent at Lerwick?-The greatest part of them were sea-going clothes.
7098. You did not generally get supplies from him for your families?-No; not very often.
7099. In those times did you ever get your outfit from any person except the agent who engaged you?-No; we always got it from the agent who engaged us. We could change the agent if we thought we could make any better of it, but they were nearly all about the same.