8695. Why?-Because I am in debt, and I cannot pay my debt, therefore I am obliged to fish for Mr. Pole.
8696. If you were to go to fish for another merchant and get paid by him in money, could you not pay off your debt to Pole, Hoseason, & Co.?-I might, but I don"t see what good that would do. I get the same price for my fish from Mr. Pole as I would get from any other body.
8697. But don"t you think you run up a bigger account when you are dealing with Pole, Hoseason, & Co., than you would do if you were getting your cash in hand?-Yes; if I had cash to purchase my meal, which is the princ.i.p.al thing I require, I would get it cheaper elsewhere.
8698. What is the price of meal at Mossbank just now?-I cannot say rightly.
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8699. When did you know last? Have you made your settlement this year?-Yes.
8700. Don"t you know what you were charged for meal then?- No.
8701. Do you ask the price of your meal as you buy it?- Sometimes; but we must take it, whatever it is, because we have no money to purchase it with elsewhere.
8702. Whose fault is that?-I don"t know.
8703. Is it the merchant"s fault?-I cannot say that is.
8704. Do you think Messrs. Pole Hoseason, & Co. charge too high for their goods?-Yes; if we had money we could get them cheaper in Lerwick.
8705. But I suppose you would have money if you could save as much as would keep you for one year?-Yes.
8706. If you could manage that, you would not run into the merchant"s debt at all, but you would have all your cash to get at settlement?-Yes, if we had as much as would once clear us off.
8707. Can you not manage to do that?-No. I have a small family, and there is a great quant.i.ty of bread to buy, and clothes and everything. I have nothing but what I can earn by the fishing.
8708. What kind of bread do you buy?-Oatmeal and flour.
8709. Are there many men who are in debt at Mossbank in the same way as you?-I believe there are a few, but I cannot say.
8710. Do you want to go to fish for any other merchant?-No; I don"t see any good that that would do to me.
8711. Is there anything else you wish to say?-Nothing.
8712. Was there anything else you wanted to say when you came here?-No.
Brae, January 13, 1872, PETER BLANCH, recalled.
8713. Do you wish to add anything to your former evidence?- About the cost of fish-curing, I said I was not speaking exactly from my own experience with regard to the sum paid, but I know that we have never used more than a ton of salt to a ton of fish on the average. I wish also to say that I have been told more than once by parties who have cured fish for Mr. Adie and others, that they only paid 12s. per ton of fish for the labour of curing. I also say that I have paid 1s. for landing salt at Lerwick, and nothing more, and I allow 2s. for wastage. These are things which Mr.
William Adie thought I had no doubt exaggerated, but I am conscious of the fact that I told nothing but the truth.
8714. Was 12s. per ton a price which was paid under contract?- Yes.
8715. Who are the parties who told you about that?-Arthur Harrison was the last one I spoke to. I landed fish to be cured by him, and he told me so. There was another man who told me the same thing about five years ago, John Henry, Sandsting, in Walls.
With regard to the price paid for lines, I wish also to say that we have to furnish our own lines in the Faroe fishing. You were asking me if I thought there was a possibility of our bettering ourselves. I thought there was, and that was one of the ways in which I thought we might do so. I have always thought that the owner, when he provided a vessel, ought also to provide the material for the catching of the fish; but instead of that we have to provide our own lines, and supply other lines if we happen to lose them, at a very dear price. We 21/2 lines for each man, and we pay 2s. 6d. for what I know the merchants buy at 2s. or 1s. 6d.
8716. Could you not buy your lines at another shop if you chose?-Yes; we could do that.
8717. Is it part of the arrangement that you are to take these lines from the owner of the vessel?-I don"t know that it is part of the arrangement, but I don"t think they would like it very well if we went to another; still I don"t know that we would be prevented.
8718. Do not the men sometimes hire the lines?-No; never in my experience in the Faroe fishing.
Brae, January 13, 1872, JOHN NICHOLSON, examined.
8719. Where do you come from?-North Delting.
8720. Who do you fish for?-Messrs Pole, Hoseason, & Co.
8721. Have you heard the evidence of Charles Nicholson?-Yes; and I would like to say about the price of our fish, that I don"t think it is very right that the men should have to go to the fishing at the beginning of the season, and don"t know what they are to get until they come to settle.
8722. Do you think you ought to have your price fixed at the beginning of the season?-Yes.
8723. Have you ever asked for that?-No; we have never asked for it.
8724. Why?-Because some of the crew are for it and others are against it, and we could not get the thing rightly settled up amongst ourselves.
8725. How long have you fished for Pole, Hoseason, & Co?-I have fished there for about fourteen years, both before and after Mr. Pole came to Mossbank.
8726. Where do you buy your goods?-From Mr. Pole.
8727. Anywhere else?-No.
8728. Do you never go to any other shop in the neighbourhood?- Not very often.
8729. Why is that?-Because sometimes I don"t have ready money to go with.
8730. If you had ready money would you go anywhere else?-Yes.
8731. Why?-Because I could get my goods cheaper and better.
8732. Are you not satisfied with the quality of the goods at the Mossbank shop?-No. There are some of the articles there which are inferior to other people"s, and dearer too.
8733. What articles are inferior?-Tea and sugar and meal.
8734. Where could you get them better?-In Lerwick.
8735. That is a long way to go for them?-Yes; but a man must take some trouble upon himself when he gets them cheaper and better.
8736. What are you paying at Mossbank store for these things just now?-Tea is 3s. per lb., sugar is 5d., and meal is 50s.
8737. When did you buy any of these three articles in Lerwick?- About a month ago.
8738. What did you get them for?-I got tea for 2s. 4d., sugar for 4d., and meal for 32s.
8739. What is the price of meal now?- About 48s. but it was 50s.