8829. Are they always read over?-I don"t think they are always read over. Generally I read them, over before the men come up to settle, so as to have them added up and ready.
8830. The ledger is written up from day to day as the goods are taken out?-Yes, perhaps twice or thrice, in a day.
8831. And the fisherman signs at settlement?-Yes.
8832. He signs also when there is a balance against him, which sometimes happens?-Yes.
8833. Have Messrs. Hay & Co. a spirit licence for the sale of whisky?-No.
8834. Do you not sell whisky at till?-No, not unless a man asks me to order it for him; and that [Page 215] goes into the current account at Lerwick, and is a separate thing altogether from the ordinary dealings.
8835. Is there no public-house in the island?-None.
8836. Do you buy hosiery at the store in Fetlar?-None.
8837. Are there any entries in this book [showing] relating to the purchase of kelp?-The parties who work the kelp have accounts in the book, and the kelp is credited to them there.
8838. How many people are employed gathering kelp in Fetlar?- There is no one regularly employed, only those who are ready to make it.
8839. Have Messrs. Hay & Co. a tack of the kelp sh.o.r.es?-No; it is done by any one who wishes to make it.
8840. And the entries are made to the credit of the women who gather it and burn it?-Yes.
8841. From how many of them have you made purchases during last year?-Only from about half a dozen. I have only purchased about 28 cwt. of it.
8842. What is the price paid for it?-4s. 6d. a cwt.
8843. Is that generally taken out in goods?-No.
8844. Do you pay 4s. 6d. when it is paid in cash?-Just the same; I make no difference.
8845. Do you not have two prices for it as they have in some places?-No; it is all the same to me whether they take money or goods. I should like them to take the goods, no doubt, but I don"t compel them.
8846. In Robina Fraser"s account I see that she has got more money than she has given kelp for: why was that?-She made a promise to work more, but she has not done it yet.
8847. Have you ever tried to send out a number of men to the winter fishing in large boats from Fetlar?-No.
8848. Do you consider that would be impracticable?-I think so.
The coast is rather tempestuous, with heavy tides, and I don"t think they would make anything of it.
8849. Do you purchase cattle and other farm stock for Messrs.
Hay?-I purchase fat cattle at Martinmas, but only from the people privately. I bought eleven last Martinmas.
8850. Are these generally credited to the sellers in the ledger, or are they paid for in cash?-They are paid for in cash at the time when the cattle are taken away.
8851. Do any of these purchases appear in the ledger?-No.
8852. Are the rents on Lord Zetland"s property in Fetlar collected by you?-No, they are generally collected by the man who comes up to settle with the fishermen.
8853. Are separate receipts given for them?-Yes.
8854. Does he also settle for the cattle?-No, I generally settle for the cattle myself.
8855. So that the cattle do not enter the rent account?-Sometimes they do. Sometimes they wish me to send on the amount to Hay & Co, to be credited in the next account.
8856. Of the eleven cattle which you purchased last year, would some be settled for in that way?-Yes. I cannot say how many, but I think four.
8857. You have no books showing that?-None here.
8858. They will be in the possession of Messrs. Hay; or have you a cattle-book?-No; I don"t have one.
8859. Do the purchases of cattle pa.s.s through your current account with Hay & Co.?-Yes.
8860. Have you a private account of your own?-My account is in the ledger, but we have a current account besides that. That current account contains whatever comes from Lerwick, charged at the Lerwick retail prices, and then all my returns of money or anything are put to the current account.
Mid Yell, January 17, 1872, GEORGE GAUNSON, examined.
8861. You are a fisherman in Fetlar, and a tenant on Lord Zetland"s property?-I am.
8862. Are you at liberty to fish for any one you please?-I don"t know; we get as good a price from Messrs. Hay as we would get from any one else, and we fish for them.
8863. Is there any one else on the island who would buy your fish?-There is only one man on the east side, Jerome Brown, who takes a little besides Messrs. Hay"s people.
8864. But you don"t know whether you are at liberty to fish for Brown or not?-I don"t know.
8865. Did you make any arrangement about fishing when you took your land?-I did not.
8866. How long have you held it?-I think I have been 28 or 30 years in the island.
8867. Have you fished every year during that period?-Sometimes I fished, and sometimes I was at sea.
8868. But when you have been at home you have always fished, and sold your fish to Messrs. Hay at the current price at the end of the season?-Yes.
8869. Have you generally found that you had balance in your favour at the end of the season?-Yes, very often; but it did not matter, because when I wanted anything, whether money or goods or meal, I always got it. Very often we had no money for the house, but we always got supplies from them.
8870. Where do you sell your cattle and your eggs, and other farm stock?-We sell them just wherever we can get any person to buy them. There are cattle dealers and other persons who come about buying them.
8871. Do you sell oftener to them or to Messrs. Hay?-It makes very little difference; when we have any cattle to sell, whenever any one comes round he gets them.
8872. Did you ever sell a beast to anybody but Messrs. Hay?- Yes; many a time. I have sold some horses to lots of people who were going about. I have sold some to Mr. Thomas Williamson, in Yell. I think he got the last one I sold; it was in February. It was a little horse.
8873. Who have you sold your cattle to?-Sometimes to Messrs.
Hay"s people, and sometimes to any other people who came round asking for them.
8874. Did you ever sell them to anybody except Messrs. Hay?-I have.
8875. When?-Some time before this.