9376. The day-book and ledger and fish-book are, I understand, the only books which are used at Greenbank and Gloup?-At Gloup we have a sort of wastebook, in which any goods are entered which are bought by anybody during the season when we have goods there.
9377. But that is merely for the purpose of being carried into the permanent ledger at Greenbank or at Mossbank?-At Greenbank.
These accounts, of course, are settled for at Gloup before the men leave there.
9378. Are these company accounts?-Some are company accounts and some are private accounts.
9379. Can a man have his private supplies at Gloup while he is residing there as well as his company supplies?-Yes.
9380. Have you a publican"s licence for the premises at Greenbank?-No; we have a certificate for getting a licence if we wish to take it out, but we have not taken it out for years. I don"t care for selling liquor, and therefore I do not take it out.
9381. How do the men get supplies of that kind: is there a public-house in the district?-No.
9382. Therefore they must buy in a stock of spirits when they want them?-I suppose so; but they very temperate cla.s.s altogether. I don"t think they use much liquor.
9383. Do they not require it at the station and when they are going to fish?-At the station we allowed to keep a small quant.i.ty of liquor, with which to supply our fishermen during the season.
9384. Is that under the Excise regulations?-I understand it is. It is my brother who takes charge of these matters; but I understand the Excise permit us to have a small quant.i.ty, for the purpose of supplying our fishermen only.
9385. Are your supplies of provisions and soft goods at Greenbank furnished from Mossbank, or do you get them direct from the wholesale merchants?-Generally we get them direct from the wholesale merchants.
9386. Are they landed in Yell?-Yes.
9387. But I suppose they are invoiced to the firm at Mossbank?- Yes.
9388. From whom do you get your princ.i.p.al supplies of meal and flour?-I should prefer to give the names privately. [Writes the names of two firms.]
9389. I see in your ledger the account of Lawrence Danielson, Houlland: is that a fisherman?-Yes.
9390. I observe that cash is sometimes entered in his account: does he come to you when he wants a small advance of cash for any immediate need?-Yes.
9391. Are applications of that kind common, or does a man generally get on without cash until settlement?-Occasionally a man may require a little advance in cash, but, as a general rule, any cash which we give out is at the time when the fishermen settle. After man has settled his account, he perhaps does not have as much money as he requires, and he may wish small advance, and it is generally given to him. He may also get a trifle occasionally at other times in the season, but it is generally about that time that the bulk of advances in cash are made.
9392. Do you square off your accounts in the ledger after settlement?-No; before the settlement.
9393. Then the entry here on November 27th, "By Mossbank ledger, so much," means what?-It means that the account there was transferred to the Mossbank ledger.
9394. And that indicates the amount which the man was ent.i.tled to receive in cash, unless there was something standing against him in the Mossbank ledger as well?-Certainly; there might be a balance against him there.
9395. "By amount of Gloup account, 1, 13s: 11d.:" was that entirely for his supplies at Gloup during the fishing season?-That was for the amount of his private account at Gloup; and that account, as I have said, is settled between him and our factor at Gloup, and is entered here.
9396. I see entries of meal, 1s. 5d. and 5s. 8d.: what quant.i.ty of meal would that be which is charged 5s. 8d.?-It would be a lispund, or four pecks.
9397. What is the quant.i.ty charged 1s. 5d.?-One peck, or eight lbs.
9398. Was that the selling price of your meal last summer?-Yes, by the peck.
9399. Do you charge less when a larger quant.i.ty is taken?-Yes; we charge sometimes 1s. or 1s. 3d. and sometimes as much as 2s.
less per boll. The price per boll would be somewhere about 25s.
or 26s. when the lispund was at 5s. 8d.
9400. What did you sell meal at per boll last summer?-It is very rarely that I sell bolls at Greenbank. Generally when a quant.i.ty of that kind is required, we order it direct from the south, and it is charged to the men at Mossbank.
9401. Do you purchase hosiery at Greenbank?-We do very little in that way.
9402. I see one woman credited in the ledger with shawl: is that an exceptional transaction?-Yes, most exceptional transaction. We used to do a good deal in hosiery, but we found it was a very bad speculation, and so we gave it up. We were losing money by it every year: we would have been in the debtors" prison, I suppose, if we had continued to go on with that trade.
9403. Are the women"s accounts for kelp kept in the same book?-Yes; if a woman is to be credited with kelp it is entered there.
9404. Do you purchase wool?-No; but we have some sheep: at least I had the management of some sheep this season, and I sold the wool for behoof of the party who owned the sheep.
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9405. When you employ people to work for you, are they paid at the time, or at the settlement?-We sometimes pay them at the time, and sometimes at settlement.
9406. Are people employed in curing fish always paid at settlement?-Not wholly. We have a cla.s.s of hands who are paid by beach fees, and another cla.s.s whom we employ as day labourers, and we pay these either daily, weekly, or monthly, or whenever they like.
9407. Or at settlement, if they have an account?-Not necessarily.
Some of them may have an account, and yet be paid daily.
9408. I see in the ledger that one woman is credited on July 1st, "By work in full, 7s. 7d.," and the account is made up: that work, I suppose, only went into the account. What kind of work would it be?-It was dressing worsted.
9409. Then, on January 14, there is, "By work, 3s. 2d.:" was that dressing worsted also?-So far as I recollect, it was.
9410. I see here a special entry, "By dressing, 3s. 9d?"-That is the same thing only differently expressed. That woman dresses any little worsted we may buy.
9411. Was that hosiery goods?-No; it was the worsted itself, the yarn.
9412. Do you buy the yarn ready made, or do you give the wool out to be spun?-We buy it ready spun and dress it, and send it south.
9413. You don"t get it made up?-We do not.
9414. But the dressing here is paid for on the same principle of accounting which you adopt in your transactions with the fishermen?-Just in the same way.
9415. And you just settle for it at the end of the year?-Not at the end of the year; just whenever the woman likes.
9416. I see that this balance has been made at March 31, and another balance is made in April, and another in July?-Yes.
9417. Are the sales of fish transacted by you at Greenbank, or through the firm at Mossbank?-Through the firm at Mossbank entirely.
9418. Are you generally acquainted with the transactions in that department?-No. I may happen to know occasionally about some things; but I don"t know particularly, as a general rule.
9419. Do you know the price at which the fish were sold last year?-I have an idea about what it was, but I could not say the exact figure.
9420. Do you know to whom they were sold? Were any of them sent to Spain?-I am not aware that any were sent to Spain. I don"t think there were any sent abroad at all. I think they were all sold in Scotland and Shetland.
9421. Who buys from you in Shetland?-Mr. Joseph Leask at Lerwick; he is a very large fishbuyer.
9422. Why do you not sell your fish direct to the south?-I suppose we find it to be an advantage to sell to him. The Greenbank fish were all sold to him last year, and I believe some were sold from Mossbank too, but I could not say the exact amount.