Baltasound, Unst, January 19, 1872, PETER JOHNSTON, examined.
10,206. You are registrar of this parish, and you live at Balliasta?-Yes.
10,207. You were formerly a fisherman, and you are acquainted with the way in which the fishing trade is carried on?-Yes. I was acquainted with it when I was at the fishing. It is ten years ago since I left it.
10,208. When you were a fisherman, was there liberty for every man to fish to any one he liked to engage with?-Yes.
10,209. Was there no restriction at all?-No.
10,210. What estate did you live upon?-On the estate of Buness.
10,211. No one there was bound to fish for his landlord or tacksman?-No. When the late Mr. Edmonstone had the fishing himself, I fished for him.
10,212. Were you bound to fish for him?-I was willing to fish for him in preference to any other, because he was my landlord.
10,213. But were you bound to fish for him?-No, he did not hold me bound.
10,214. Might you have engaged to fish for any one else, without any fear of being turned out of your farm?-I might.
10,215. Was that generally the case throughout the country?-I believe it was, so far as I can remember. What it was long before that I don"t know.
10,216. You are not engaged in fishing now, or in any business?- No. I have a farm from Mr. Edmonstone.
10,217. Do you deal at the shop at Haroldswick or Balta Sound?- I just deal anywhere I find convenient, because I pay in ready money.
10,218. You don"t keep an account?-No.
10,219. Do you prefer that way of dealing?-I do.
10,220. Do you get better bargains in that way?-It may be that there is not much difference, but still have the privilege of choosing where I am to deal.
10,221. Where do you deal in your ready-money transactions?- Chiefly with Spence & Co. at Balta Sound.
10,222. What do you pay there for meal?-I am not, in the way of buying meal. I get it from my own farm.
10,223. What do you pay there for soft goods?-I have not had any lately.
10,224. Do you go to Lerwick for them?-No; but sometimes I send to Lerwick for some tea and other articles.
10,225. Why do you not get your tea from Spence & Co?-I get it sometimes from them, and sometimes from others.
10,226. Why do you send so far as Lerwick for it?-Because we might get it a little cheaper there. We can get very good tea at Lerwick for 2s. 6d. a lb., while the cheapest here is about 3s. or 2s.
8d.
10,227. Is the 2s. 6d. tea that you get in Lerwick as good as the 3s.
tea which you get here, or better?-I think it is much about the same.
10,228. Is there anything else you send to Lerwick for?-No.
10,229. What else do you get from Spence & Co.?-Any small thing I require-princ.i.p.ally tobacco. I get twist tobacco for 31/2d.
an ounce.
10,230. What else do you get?-Nothing worth mentioning.
10,231. Then you buy nothing from Spence & Co. that is worth mentioning except tea and tobacco?-I sometimes buy a little sugar. It is fine white sugar at 6d. a lb. I have also bought sugar from Mr. William Johnston. It was of the same price and quality.
I have never got it from Lerwick.
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Baltasound, Unst, January 19, 1872, WILLIAM GILBERT MOUAT, examined.
10,232. You are a partner of the firm of Spence & Co?-I am.
10,233. You manage their business at Baltasound along with Mr.
Thomson?-Yes.
10,234. You were in business on your own account for a good many years before the formation of that company?-Yes, for eighteen years at Baltasound. I was not extensively in the fishing then, but I had a shop.
10,235. Were you present during the examination of Mr.
Sandison?-Yes.
10,236. Do you concur generally in what he said?-Yes; I don"t think I could correct or add anything to it, for I think he has given just such a statement as I would have given myself.
10,237. Do you entertain the same opinion about the possibility of an improved mode of conducting business here?-I do.
10,238. You have arrived at the same conclusion with regard to the expediency of a monthly pay if it could be introduced?-Yes; fortnightly or monthly.
10,239. You settle with the fishermen at Baltasound?-Yes; I have settled with the greater number of them there for the last four years.
10,240. In 1867, before the formation of the firm, had you fishermen in your own employment here?-Yes.
10,241. Before 1868 Mr. John Spence carried on business at Haroldswick as a fish-curer?-Yes.
10,242. And, I understand, the accounts of both the Haroldswick fishermen and the Baltasound fishermen are now kept in your books at Baltasound?-Yes. They are transferred from what is called the Haroldswick fisherman"s ledger to the general ledger.
We enter the amount of advances at Haroldswick into the general fishing ledger, and give the men credit in that ledger for the amount of their fishings.
10,243. Does that general fishing ledger show the amount of balances due at the beginning of each year as well as at the end?- Yes. [Produces fisherman"s ledger.]
10,244. Are the shop accounts entered in this book in full, or is the summation merely transferred from another book?-These accounts [showing] are just taken from what we call the fisherman"s ledger at Haroldswick, containing the fishermen"s accounts for the season.
10,245. How do you do with the fishermen who deal in the shop at Baltasound?-We have a shop ledger in which the details of their transactions are entered. Here [showing], and for eighteen pages back, you will find the Baltasound fishermen. Then here [showing] is the account for the rent, which we pay for the men to the Earl of Zetland. I collect Lord Zetland"s rents here for Messrs.
George and Arthur James Hay, the factors, and remit them to them when collected.
10,246. Have you the shop ledger?-Yes. [Produces it.]
10,247. Each fisherman has his account separately kept in it?- Yes.