11,355. Are your supplies of goods got from Lerwick from Messrs.
Hay?-Some come from Lerwick, and some come direct from the south.
11,356. Are they invoiced to you at wholesale price, or at the price at which you are expected to sell them?-They are invoiced at the wholesale price and I fix the retail price myself.
11,357 What price do you pay for fish to the neutral man who brings them to you in that way?-It is not always the same; sometimes it is more and sometimes less.
11,358. What has been the price this season?-It depends upon the size of the fish we get. For ling and large cod I paid 6s. a cwt up to the commencement of this year, and since then I have paid 7s.
11,359. Do you generally pay that in money?-No; part in goods, and part in money.
11,360. Do your books show in what proportion the payments consist of money, and in what proportion of goods?-We keep no account of what is paid directly over the counter. I charge my employers with the amount of fish which I purchase from these men, and settle with the men at once as I get them.
11,361. Are the fish brought to the counter?-No, they are weighed in the store. There are people there for that purpose.
11,362. When you are weighing them and taking delivery of them, do you ask the man what he wants?-Yes. He gets whatever goods he wants.
11,363. Then when you have taken delivery you go with him to the shop, and give him either goods or money?-Yes; we give him the goods, and then the balance in cash.
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11,364. If it is not convenient for you to go yourself, suppose you have a shopman who will act in the shop in your stead?-We have a man for weighing, the fish, and he comes up with the account of the fish he has got, and then we settle with the men according to the weight which he gives in to us.
11,365. Does the man who takes in the fish enter their weight in any book at the time?-No; he marks it down upon a board, or anything, and comes up to the shop as soon as he has weighed for a boat"s crew, and gives in the weight. We enter that in our book, and pay the price to the men.
11,366. Does the man who weighs the fish always come up to the shop?-Yes.
11,367. He does not send a note of the weight he always comes himself?-No, he always comes himself.
11,368. Do you ever pay the price altogether in cash-Sometimes; if the men want no goods we pay it in cash.
11,369. Is that a usual thing?-It is not usual; but sometimes it is the case.
11,370. Is there any particular reason for paying it all in cash when that is done?-If the party wants no goods, then he gets the cash.
11,371. Or if he wants the cash for any particular purpose?-Yes.
11,372. I suppose he will generally tell you if he wants the cash for any particular reason?-Sometimes he does.
11,373. And you make no objection to giving it to him?-No, not if he wants it.
11,374. Do you give him the same price in cash as in goods?- Quite the same; it makes no difference; we have a fixed price.
11,375. Is it entirely in the choice of the men whether they take goods or cash?-Yes.
11,376. But is it not part of the system that the payment is for the most part taken in goods?-That depends upon the parties themselves.
11,377. Do you mean to say, that if the fishermen were all to combine and ask for their payment in cash, they would get it, or would that necessitate any change in your system of carrying on business?-I suppose they would get it; but we might not have enough cash to pay out such large sums as that. We are not near any bank, and we might not have sufficient cash in hand for all that we required, if the payment was wholly in cash.
11,378. Would you find it inconvenient to pay for these fish altogether in cash?-Yes, unless my employers were to give me sufficient cash to meet their demands.
11,379. Your arrangements are made upon the footing, I suppose, that the bulk of the payments are to be taken in goods?-That is understood, although there is no arrangement made about it.
11,380. There is no arrangement made with the men, but it is understood that a great proportion of the transactions are to be settled for in goods?-If the men get as good articles from us as they can get from any other party, I don"t see why they should not take payments in that way.
11,381. It might very well happen, I suppose, that even if you did pay in cash, the man would take his cash and spend it at your shop?-Yes; and sometimes that is done.
11,382. But, in point of fact, your business arrangements are made upon the footing that the great amount of the fish sales are to be paid for in goods?-There is no arrangement at all.
11,383. But your own business arrangements are made on that footing? You don"t keep a sufficient supply of cash to meet the requirements of a ready-money trade?-No, that has not been the practice.
11,384. Then is it not an exceptional case, and a mere favour to the fisherman, to pay him in money?-It is in his own option to take either goods or money. If he wants the goods he gets them, and if not we pay him in cash.
11,385. But is it not the case that a man is not paid in cash unless he expressly asks for it?-He is not paid in cash unless he wishes it. He gets whatever goods he requires, and the balance is paid over to him in cash.
11,386. The first thing settled between you, after fixing the price, is what goods the man is to take?-Yes.
11,387. And after that, if there is any balance over, it is paid to him in cash?-Yes.
11,388. But, as a rule, he takes out his goods first?-Yes.
11,389. Do you suppose that three-fourths of the value of the fish sold are paid for in goods?-I could hardly say. We never keep any account of that.
11,390. What is the usual quant.i.ty of fish brought to you at one time in winter from one boat?-It varies very much.
11,391. Will it be two or three cwts.?-Sometimes more, and sometimes less.
11,392. Would five cwt. be a good catch for it day in winter?- Yes, it would be a good catch.
11,393. Are there many ling caught in winter?-Not many. There are very few tusk caught then. They are chiefly cod, and some ling. There are three cla.s.ses of cod. There is a large cla.s.s, and a small cla.s.s, and a middle size, and the price is different. The price for small cod is now 5s. per cwt., but the large cod that can be sent to Spain are always paid for higher. The price for them is 7s. now.
11,394. Suppose a man were bringing five cwt. of cod to you, he would get, I suppose, about 30s. for it, if it were equally composed of large and small cod?-Yes. That would be divided among the men in the boat,-say three or four men.
11,395. That would be about 7s. 6d. each?-Yes, supposing the price to be at the rate you have mentioned.
11,396. Would it be usual for the man to get the whole of that 7s.
6d. in goods?-That would depend upon himself. Perhaps he might require two-thirds of it in goods, and the other third in cash.
11,397. Would 2s. 6d. be about the largest sum would get in money upon such a catch of fish?-It might be more or less.
11,398. But he would sometimes get it all in goods, I suppose?- Sometimes.
11,399. Do you remember any case in which he got it all in cash?-There have been several cases of that kind. I was looking in the shop books before I came here, and I picked up some papers in the shop showing how much cash they get. [The witness handed in papers containing the following accounts:-
.11s. 71/2d.
Tea, 1s. 4d.; sugar, 21/2d.,0161/2 Loaf, 4d.; sugar, 11/2d.0051/2 Soap, 21/2d., sulphur, 11/2d.,004 Soda, 11/2d.; cotton, 1s. 6d. 0171/2 Cotton, 003 Porter, 5d.; biscuit, 3d.; cash, 6s. 9d.,075 01171/2
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