1581. Do you find that the women here are anxious to work for you?-Yes; they are anxious to get money.
1582. You think they would much rather work, for you than for a merchant who keeps a shop?-Yes; I am never at a loss for them.
When I am in a hurry I always get them to help me, because I pay in money.
1583. I suppose you get the choice of the knitters?-I don"t know about that. I just get done what I have to do.
1584. Have you often been applied to by women who were anxious to work for you rather than for the shops?-Yes; very often.
1585. Do they tell you that it is a kindness or charity to employ them?-Yes; because they could not get the money out of the shops.
1586. Do you know, from your own observation of the system, as to the mode of dealing at the shops?-I often sell shawls in the shops, although I am not in the habit of going with them myself, so that I am often dealing a little in the shops.
1587. You send them by some other person?-Yes: I employ a girl to go and sell them for me.
1588. In that case, how is the transaction carried out?-I just get a line out of the shop, and get goods for it.
1589. Is the line in your name?-No; it is just a simple line or I O U, and I send it back: to the shop at any time when I want the goods.
1590. Have you any of these lines with you?-I have one at home, which I will send in.
1591. From whom did you get it?-From Mr Robert Sinclair.
1592. Have you sometimes got these lines from knitters?-Yes; often.
1593. They wanted money, and could not get it at the shops, and brought their lines to you?-Yes; I have often taken a line and given them money for it in order to meet their necessities, because they would not get money elsewhere.
1594. You kept these lines until you could make some use of them yourself?-Yes. Whenever I required any little thing, I sent to the shop for it, and paid for it with these lines.
1595. Have you any of these lines belonging to other women in your hands just now?-I have not.
1596. How much money may you have had lying out in that way at a time?-Not very much; perhaps a few shillings now and then.
1597. Are the lines generally for a large amount?-No; from 8s. to 7s. or 8s., or thereabout.
1598. May you have had two or three of them at a time?-Perhaps one or two.
1599. Have you known other, people taking lines in the same way?-Yes;, I believe there are many who do it.
1600. Do you know any one who is often applied to in that way?- I cannot say exactly; but I have often taken a line from Miss Elizabeth Robertson, who was examined on Monday, and given her money for it, because she was in necessity.
1601. Does Janet Irvine knit for you?-Yes.
1602. Have you taken lines, from her?-No; she is a fish-girl, and does not knit much.
1603. In selling your own shawls to the shops, have you asked for money?-No; but I have told the girl who went with the shawls to sell them for me to ask for a shilling or two, and she said she need not ask for it because she would not get it.
1604. But that was a case of sale. You know nothing about the case where, the wool has been given out by the shops?-No, I don"t know about that, because it is long since I knitted any for the shops.
1605. Do you know of any other person in Lerwick who sends hosiery south in the same way?-Yes; there are plenty of them through the town.
1606. Do they send the hosiery, south direct to White or to other merchants in Edinburgh or Glasgow?-Yes; there are, plenty who do that; but I never have any dealings with any one except Mr.
White.
1607. Who else in Lerwick deals in that way with [Page 32] the shops in the south?-There is a Mrs. James Henry in Burn"s Lane, and a Mrs. Elizabeth Anderson, and several other people.
Lerwick, January 3, 1872, CATHERINE BORTHWICK, examined.
1608. Are you a knitter in Lerwick?-I am.
1609. Do you buy your own wool?-No.
1610. Who do you knit for?-For Mr. Robert Sinclair, Mr.
Thomas Nicholson, and sometimes for Miss Robina Leisk.
1611. Have you books with all these people
1612. Have you any pa.s.s-book at all?-No.
1613. You get the wool weighed out to you, and you take back the article which has been ordered?-Yes.
1614. What articles do you knit?-Veils, shawls, neckties, ladies"
scarfs, and the like.
1615. How long have you been doing business in that way?- About fifteen years.
1616. How are you paid?-Just in goods from the shops.
1617. You take an article which you have made to the shop, and tell them what the price is?-No; they price it themselves.
1618. Do they price it when the material is given out to you?-No; they price it when the article is brought to them again.
1619. When they have fixed the price, what takes place?-I can get anything out of their shop in the shape of goods that I ask for, only I cannot get any money.
1620. Do you not get part of the price in money?-No; I have never any money from Mr. Sinclair, except perhaps 5s., for the whole fourteen years I have wrought for him.
1621. Do you get money from other dealers you have mentioned?-I have got a little money from Mr. Thomas Nicholson; but it is not long since he began business for himself.
1622. Do you often go into the shops with articles worth about 10s?-Yes.
1623. How much of that do you get in money?-I have never got any money from Mr. Sinclair at all. It is about seven years since I asked him for 1s., and he would not give it me, and I have not asked since.
1624. Can you only get dry goods and tea at the shops?-I can get tea, and soap, and soda, and blue, and starch, and the like of that.
1625. How do you get your food?-I have a father, who buys it for me.
1626. You live with your father, and get your food with the family?-Yes; what his wages can bring in.