2046. Did he pay you money across the counter?-Yes.
2047. Were you ever obliged to take goods from him?-Yes; many a time.
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2048. Did he tell you he would not give you money?-No; he did not say that.
2049. What did he say?-He just gave me anything I wanted- sometimes money and sometimes goods.
2050. He never told you that he did not want to give you money?-Sometimes he did so. Sometimes he was very unwilling to give money, but he did give it.
2051. Was that pretty often?-No; not very often. My articles were always good.
2052. Did you sometimes ask him to give you money when you did not get it?-Yes.
2053. Is it long since he left the business?-I have never sold anything to him since the month of July.
2054. Who do you sell to now?-I have sent what articles I have made since to my son in the south, and he has sold them in Leith.
2055. Do you get as good a price for them there as you used to get from Mr. Spence?-No.
2056. But your son sends you money for the goods you send to him?-Yes; he always sends me money, and his shipmates buy what I make.
2057. Do many women knit that sort of goods that you deal in- stockings and gloves?-A great many.
2058. Is it mostly that kind of knitting that is carried on in your part of the country at Girlsta?-Yes.
2059. They don"t knit fine work there?-No.
2060. Who buys the sort of work they make?-Most of the merchants do so.
2061. Do the people in your part of the country generally get payment in goods?-Yes.
2062. Or in money?-No; they never ask for money.
2063. Why?-Because the country people are not needing it.
2064. Do they not need money?-Yes they need money; but when they get the goods the same they always ask the goods.
2065. You think there would no use getting money for your knitting, and just handing it back across the counter the next minute for goods?-I suppose that is what they think; but they would be better if they could get the money.
2066. Can they not get it?-Not very well.
2067. Why?-Because the merchants are not willing to give it.
2068. I thought you said the country people did not get money because they did not want it?-Well, sometimes there is no use of them getting it, and giving it back again to the merchant they are dealing with; they might just as well have the goods, because they have plenty of meal and other things to serve their ends, and they are not like us, who have to buy everything. We would be glad of the money sometimes to buy things that the merchant does not have, or to pay our rent with; but the country people have plenty of these things, and it is only goods they are wanting, and that is the reason why they take them.
2069. Then you have no reason to complain of this system of paying in goods?-We have to complain of it many a time.
2070. Why do you complain?-Because if we had money it could answer for other things, and in other ways than when we get goods; but we cannot get it.
2071. Is it a common subject of complaint in the country, that you cannot get money?-It is every one"s complaint; and when we get articles, we are sorry to have to part with them for perhaps half-price.
2072. Do you sometimes sell the articles which you get at the shops?-Yes. I am in the habit of making very good things, and I am very sorry sometimes that I have to give them away at so low a price.
2073. But suppose you come into town and get goods in return for your knitting, have you sometimes to sell these goods again?-No; I have not done that.
2074. Is there anything more you wish to say?-No.
Lerwick, January 3, 1872, MARY ANN SINCLAIR, examined.
2075. You knit for Mr. Sinclair?-Yes.
2076. Do you knit with his wool?-Yes.
2077. Do you keep a pa.s.s-book?-No.
2078. You just settle for the work as you take it back each time?- Yes.
2079. Are you generally paid in money or in goods?-Part in both.
2080. Do you knit shawls or veils?-Mostly veils.
2081. How many veils will you take to him in a week?-I could not exactly say. There are four of us besides me.
2082. Do you all knit for Mr. Sinclair?-There is one who knits besides me, and another dresses.
2083. Does she dress only your own knitting, or does she take in other people"s knitting to dress too?-She dresses what she gets to do for other people.
2084. Does she do a good deal in that way for other people?-Yes.
2085. You cannot tell me how many veils you take: to Mr. Sinclair in a week?-We might do three in week, each of us, if we were able to work constantly at it.
2086. Do you work at anything else?-Nothing else-only veils; but we are so often in trouble, that I could hardly tell you how many we do in a week. There are three sisters and one brother of us alive now: my father and mother are dead.
2087. Is your brother a fisherman?-No; he is in a shop.
2088. You are not a married woman?-No.
2089. How much will you get for your veils when you take a lot of them to Mr. Sinclair? Are they sold at 1s. each?-It is generally very fine veils that we knit, and we get 1s. 6d. each for them.
2090. How many do you take at a time to the shop?-Perhaps a dozen, or perhaps two dozen.
2091. If you take a dozen, that would be 18s. worth?-Yes.
2092. How much of that will you get in money?-Our rent is paid from the knitting. That, of course, is money.