2747. The English wool would be about 3s. cheaper?-Yes.
2748. And the shawl would sell for how much?-I suppose for about that much less, or about 27s.
2749. A shawl exactly the same in other respects would be made out of English wool for 3s. less?-Yes; for 2s. or 3s. less.
2750. And it would also sell in the market for 2s. or 3s. less?- Yes.
2751. The knitting in that case would be paid at the same rate?- Yes.
2752. Do you buy much wool in Shetland?-We buy all the fine wool we can get. In fact, we cannot get supplied with as much Shetland wool as we want.
2753. You don"t buy it to resell?-No; I just buy it for my own use.
2754. Is it the fact that some of your Shetland hosiery is sold without any profit at all?- There is some of it sold below cost price when it comes to be bad stock.
2755. Are gentlemen"s drawers, for instance, sold without a profit?-I think they are sold at no reduction.
2756. Do you make any profit upon them?-Yes, I make a profit.
2757. You sell them south at a higher rate than you pay to the knitters for them?-Yes; at a shade higher, some of them.
2758. I have had evidence today from one gentleman that he bought them and sold them at a lower price. Do you think that is the case?-It is quite possible, and I have known instances of that with myself.
2759. Does that happen with you in some kinds of goods?-Yes; with certain kinds of goods which are produced in larger quant.i.ties than are required.
2760. But that over-production does not continue over a long period of time?-It does in the knitting trade with myself. I don"t pay off any of the knitters; I keep them on.
2761. Can they not turn their attention to some other kinds of work when there is too much stock of a particular kind?-It is generally lacework, veils or shawls, that I give out for knitting.
2762. But when there is an over-production of that kind of goods, can the knitters not turn their hands to something else?-They do so occasionally.
2763. So that you have not an increasing stock of goods which you cannot sell at a profit?-Very often they cannot get the wool with which to make the coa.r.s.er sort of goods. It is not to be got, and there is a very large proportion of the Shetland wool sent south, and sold as raw material.
2764. Then the women are restricted to the articles for which they have suitable wool?-Yes; both those who knit for themselves, and those who knit with the wool which we give out.
2765. That is to say, you have not always the kind of wool that you want?-No; we cannot get a sufficient quant.i.ty of fine Shetland wool; but I don"t give out any wool for making coa.r.s.e goods, only the lace goods. I don"t give out wool for such things as men"s underclothing and stockings.
2766. Have you anything else to say?-No; there is nothing more that occurs to me to say.
Lerwick, January 4, 1872, JAMES TULLOCH, examined.
2767. You are a merchant in Lerwick?-I am.
2768. You keep a drapery store?-Yes.
2769. Do you sell any other goods?-The only grocery goods I sell are tea and soap.
2770. Do you purchase hosiery?-My chief business in it is purchasing it. I have very few knitters employed.
2771. Do you pay them in money or goods?-It is the understanding that they are to be paid in goods; but I often give a few shillings when they ask for it, [Page 61] both when purchasing and when I employ the women to knit. I have only one or two persons knitting for me in Lerwick just now, and not more than three or four that I remember of in the country. My business in that way is mostly done by purchase.
2772. Do your knitters have pa.s.s-books?-No; the account with them is just kept in the day-book and ledger.
2773. You have an account in the ledger with each knitter?-Yes.
2774. Does it show what proportion of the payment to the knitter is made in cash?-No. In some cases the price is marked in and sometimes not.
2775. Then how do you know what you have paid if it is not marked?-The transaction is very often carried through without reference to the book at all, particularly in the case of a purchase.
2776. But I am speaking only of those knitters whom you employ.
I am quite aware that in sales it generally a transaction that is finished at the time; but in the case of your knitters, how do you know how much is paid to them in cash?-I had many more knitters at one time than I have now, but I have given them up.
With regard to the one who is knitting for me just now, I don"t remember whether she ever asked me for any cash upon her knitting or not.
2777. Have you only one woman knitting for you just now?-I have only two, and one of them has had no knitting for some time.
I don"t remember of either of these two having ever asked me for money.
2778. They have an account in your books, and they take goods, and their account is balanced now and again?-Yes.
2779. Do you sell worsted?-No. For the last few months I have had a little of the Pyrenees wool to sell, and I have sold it.
2780. Is that extensively purchased by people who wish to knit?- There seems to be a good deal of it wrought into small articles at present. I have never wrought up any of it.
2781. Is it an article that is sold for cash?-Yes; but sometimes we give it out upon the work that is brought in.
2782. There is no difficulty made about giving it out upon a transaction of that sort?-No; not that kind of it. I never object to give Scotch wool.
2783. But you do object to give the Shetland wool that is purchased for cash?-Yes; we have a profit on the Pyrenees wool.
2784. Why is it called Pyrenees wool?-I don"t know. It is sometimes called Scotch wool too.
2785. Is it the practice in your shop to give workers lines for a balance that is due upon goods sold?-Yes.
2786. What is the form of these lines?-I have one or two of them here. (Produces lines.) It is in this form:
"I O U 1s. 3d. in goods.
JAMES TULLOCH 3. 1. 72."
There is a private mark in the corner which is only known to myself, showing the amount; and there is also a private stamp on the corner, as a guarantee for the genuineness of the line.
2787. The other one which you produce is a blank form?-Yes. I keep some of them on hand, ready for filling up.
2788. Can your clerk issue them in your absence?-Yes; he knows the private mark too, and he puts it there.
2789. Do you keep a register of these notes?-No; they are just given out as they are required, and goods are given for them when they are brought in. Sometimes I have given goods for a note which the people said they had lost or torn; but it is only as a matter of convenience for them that they are given at all.
2790. You would rather give the goods to them at once?-Yes.
Sometimes lines are given to them when we do not have a particular thing they want; and we also give them out sometimes when we are in a hurry.