_Lord Ellenborough._ Did he tell you at what o"clock he saw him?
_A._ Yes; at about a quarter past six.
_Q._ Did he tell you that he thought it was shocking he should be out of the Rules?
_A._ Yes, he did; that he wondered whether he had got his liberty or not.
_Q._ Did he say it was shocking he should be out of the Rules?
_A._ I cannot particularly say, whether he said it was shocking or not.
_Q._ Had you known these Smiths long?
_A._ About three years and seven months.
_Q._ You are in the habits of visiting them sometimes?
_A._ Smith came backwards and forwards to Chelsea, when his master lived at the end of the bridge.
_Q._ Have you kept up your acquaintance with them, since they lived in Chelsea?
_A._ Yes, I have.
_Q._ You are very well acquainted with them?
_A._ Yes, I am.
_Q._ Had you seen him that day, the 20th?
_A._ No; I saw him that day fortnight.
_Q._ Your husband did not stay at home to keep the birth-day of his child?
_A._ No; my husband is an ostler, and he cannot come and go at his own time.
_Q._ But he mentioned about the Rules to you, did he?
_A._ Yes, he did; he said he should enquire from Smith, the first time he saw him, whether his master had got his liberty or not.
_Q._ Had your husband an anxiety to know whether he had got his liberty or not?
_A._ No, I cannot say that he seemed anxious, but he said he wondered how he came down there.
_Henry Doyle Tragear sworn._
_Examined by Mr. Richardson._
_Q._ Do you remember being at Mr. Donithorne"s house, in York-street, Westminster, in the month of February last?
_A._ Yes, I do.
_Q._ Were you staying at his house?
_A._ Yes, I was.
_Q._ Living and sleeping there?
_A._ Yes.
_Q._ When did you go there?
_A._ I went there on the 17th of February.
_Q._ On what occasion?
_A._ I let my house, No. 39, Little Queen-street, Holborn, where I had carried on the hatting business, and I went from thence to Donithorne"s.
_Q._ Was it on the 17th you let your house, finally.
_A._ Yes, it was.
_Q._ Did you stay at Mr. Donithorne"s until or after the Sunday following, the 20th of February?
_A._ Yes, and until this very time.
_Q._ Are you acquainted with the prisoner Mr. De Berenger?
_A._ Yes, I have seen him frequently previously to that, at Mr.
Donithorne"s house.
_Q._ Do you or not, remember having seen him on Sunday the 20th of February?
_A._ Yes, very particularly on that day.
_Q._ Did you see him more than once on that day?
_A._ Yes, I saw him twice on that day.
_Q._ When was the first time you saw him?
_A._ Between nine and ten in the morning.
_Q._ When was the last time you saw him?
_A._ Between eight and nine in the evening of the same day.
_Q._ Did he stay any time when you saw him the last time on that day?