_Q._ You know the different members of the family?
_A._ Yes.
_Q._ Do you know the major?
_A._ Yes, I attended on the major when he first went into the army.
_Q._ I mean Major Cochrane?
_A._ The brother of Lord Cochrane,--the younger brother.
_Q._ The brother who is in Spain or France?
_A._ Yes, he was there lately.
_Q._ All that Lord Cochrane said was, "Well, Thomas, I will return?"
_A._ Yes, that was all that he said.
[_Mr. Poole, of the Patent Office, was called, but did not answer._]
_Mr. Gurney._ I will admit the patent to be of any date you please.
_Mr. Brougham._ It is a patent for the invention of a lamp; the date is 20th of February.
_Mr. Gurney._ I will take my learned friend"s word for that.
_Mr. Brougham._ That is the case on the part of my Lord Cochrane.
_Mr. Scarlett._ The next witness is to the case of Mr. Cochrane Johnstone.
_Mr. Park._ I shall use him also.
_Mr. Gabriel Tahourdin sworn._
_Examined by Mr. Scarlett._
_Q._ How long have you known Mr. De Berenger?
_A._ About five or six years.
_Q._ Were you the person that introduced him to Mr. Cochrane Johnstone?
_A._ I was.
_Q._ How long ago?
_A._ In May 1813.
_Q._ You were well acquainted with Mr. Cochrane Johnstone.
_A._ I had not been well acquainted with him at that time.
_Q._ Do you know, whether Mr. Cochrane Johnstone, at that time, was in possession of a garden or some premises at Paddington?
_A._ Yes, in Alsop"s Buildings.
_Q._ Which he was desirous of improving?
_A._ He was.
_Q._ What was the occasion of your introducing Mr. De Berenger to him?
_A._ It was mere chance.
_Q._ Did you, or anybody else, to your own knowledge, recommend Mr. De Berenger as a person who could a.s.sist him in planning that place?
_A._ I had previously introduced him: I will just state the circ.u.mstance that led to my introduction.
_Q._ I do not know that the circ.u.mstance is in the least material. You say the introduction was at first accidental; was there, in consequence of that accident, any connection with them, as to Mr. De Berenger a.s.sisting him in this plan?
_A._ Yes.
_Q._ The place was intended to be called Vittoria?
_A._ Yes.
_Q._ Did Mr. De Berenger employ himself in preparing a plan, as an artist?
_A._ He did, which plan is here (_producing it_).
_Lord Ellenborough._ The exhibition of the plan cannot be important, I should think.
_Mr. Scarlett._ It may become material, because Mr. Cochrane Johnstone had paid him for the plan.
_Lord Ellenborough._ Whether there were colonades, and so on, or not, I should think cannot be material.
_Mr. Park._ The production of the plan is necessary only, to shew that it is worth the money which was paid.
_Lord Ellenborough._ I only wish to avoid useless particularity; I do not wish to curtail you of the least particle of proper proof.
_Mr. Scarlett._ Do you know, whether, in the month of September in the last year, Mr. De Berenger had made considerable progress in that plan?
_A._ He had; he had nearly completed it.
_Q._ He had not quite completed it?