12,221. Is that in the same parish, but at some distance from your place?-Yes; I think it is about eight miles away.
12,222. Your father is in delicate health, and has not been able to come to-day?-Yes. He has not been able to come in consequence of the rough day.
12,223. Were you concerned in his business before you set up business on your own account?-Yes.
12,224. You are acquainted with his business at Tresta as well as with your own?-Yes.
12,225. Have you heard the evidence which has been given by Mr.
Georgeson to-day?-Yes.
12,226. Is your business and that of your father similar in character to Mr. Georgeson"s?-Yes, it is just the same only we have a spirit licence in addition. My father has a public-house licence, and I have a grocer"s licence.
12,227. Then you supply what spirits may be wanted in the parishes of Walls and Sandsting?-Yes. I suppose we supply the princ.i.p.al part of them; but the people may go to Lerwick or any other place for them if they choose.
12,228. Your dealings in that way, I suppose, are always settled for in cash?-Yes, always in cash.
12,229. Is the bulk of your other transactions paid for in cash too?-No; there is a good deal of credit given.
12,230. To what cla.s.s of customers do you give credit?-To the fishermen.
12,231. Have you any fishermen who are employed in your own boats?-We have no boats fishing to us.
12,232. Do you buy cured fish or green fish from the fishermen?- No, we don"t buy any. My father has one vessel of his own that goes to the Faroe fishing. He had three about five or six years ago.
12,233. Where do you get the men for these Faroe vessels?-They are very much scattered. Sometimes, we get part from Walls, and sometimes part from Sandsting.
12,234. Do these men take supplies for themselves and their families during the summer from your father"s shops?-Yes.
12,235. And they have an account which is settled at the end of the fishing season?-Yes.
12,236. Do you buy no fish at all?-No. My father has an interest in two boats that fish on the home banks off Shetland. That is the cod fishing; they don"t go to the Faroe fishing. They are smacks, but they are small.
12,237. That bank is between Shetland and Orkney?-Yes.
12,238. Exclusive of the men who are engaged in the Faroe fishing, have you or your father many accounts with fishermen living in the district?-Not very [Page 301] many. We have some, but they are princ.i.p.ally with men who go south, and we supply their families during the time they are away. They go princ.i.p.ally to Liverpool, and sometimes to Greenock, and enter the merchant service. They remain away for a year or two, and then come home for a winter.
12,239. Do these men send allotment notes home to their wives?- Not often. They generally remit money home at the end of the voyage.
12,240. Then you have no security at all for your advances, except the personal credit of the men?-None at all.
12,241. There may be some stock on their farms occasionally?- Of course they have a little.
12,242. Have you any accounts with fishermen on the ling fishing at home?-Not many. There is no ling fishing carried on close to where I live.
12,243. But a few of your neighbours are engaged in it?-No. I think there are none of them engaged in it.
12,244. Is it the same with your father"s place?-Yes; there is no ling fishing there at all.
12,245. Have you any accounts with fishermen engaged in the Faroe fishing for other merchants than yourselves?-We have some, but not many.
12,246. I suppose these Faroe men generally open accounts with the merchants in whose smacks they are engaged?-Yes, generally.
12,247. Have you anything to say in addition to what was stated by Mr. Georgeson and Mr. t.w.a.tt in their evidence?-The only thing I would like to say is, that I think all the men have complete liberty to engage anywhere they choose, or to go to the fishing or south as they like. I don"t think any compulsion is used.
12,248. I don"t think any of the previous witnesses said there was any compulsion in that way. Have you ever endeavoured to purchase cured fish?-No.
12,249. Why? Did you never think of it?-No.
12,250. Was that because you considered you would have no chance of getting the fish to buy?-I could hardly say that; but I never thought much about it.
Lerwick, January 24, 1872, ARCHIBALD ABERNETHY, examined.
12,251. Are you a shopkeeper at Whiteness, in the parish of Tingwall?-I am.
12,252. In what goods do you deal?-Princ.i.p.ally in eggs and b.u.t.ter.
12,253. Do you deal in groceries and a little in soft goods?-Yes.
12,254. Do you pay for eggs and b.u.t.ter generally in goods?-Yes, generally; but I very often pay money for eggs too.
12,255. Do you make a difference on the price, according as they are paid for in money or in goods?-Yes; there is a difference of 1/2d. per dozen, as a general rule.
12,256. Have you ever bought fish?-Yes, a little.
12,257. Do you buy them dry or green?-I buy them green, and cure them myself.
12,258. Do you own any boats?-No. Occasionally I may hire a boat and a crew for a month or two about this season of the year for the spring fishing, before they go to Faroe.
12,259. Do you fix the price of your fish at the time they are delivered, or do you settle with the men for them according to the price at the end of the season?-They will scarcely agree to fix a price at the time they are delivered, in case the price of fish may rise during the year, and then they expect to get a better price for them. They prefer to wait until the fish go to the market, and then they know what the price is.
12,260. Is that what is done when you buy the fish green?-Yes.
12,261. In that case, you settle with them according to the current price at the end of the year?-Yes. I generally guarantee to give them that price.
12,262. I thought you said you had only one boat for a short time at this season?-I sometimes have one or two boats for a short time at this season, and that is generally the agreement I make with them.
12,263. Don"t you buy the fish promiscuously, as it were, from any man who comes and offers them to you?-Yes.
12,264. Do you do that only in the winter and spring, or also in the summer?-It is only in the winter and spring that I have the chance of doing it. There are scarcely any fish got in our quarter in the summer time, because the fishermen are generally engaged in the Faroe fishing then.
12,265. Are none of them engaged in the ling fishing?-None at all.
12,266. Do you keep accounts for supplies that you make to fishermen?-Yes, a few.
12,267. Are these men engaged in the Faroe or the ling fishing?- Princ.i.p.ally in the Faroe fishing.
12,268. Do any of these men get their whole supplies from you?- None of them. I think they are generally supplied from the shops of the owners of the vessels they are in.