12,713. That is a very old story. Did it ever happen again?-No.
12,714. Have men gone to Greenland from Skerries since then?- Yes.
12,715. And they have not been fined?-No.
12,716. How did they escape?-I cannot say.
12,717. They just had their liberty, and nothing was said to them?-Nothing.
12,718. Do you think the fines imposed on these six men served as a warning?-I don"t think so.
12,719. That did not prevent other men from going to Greenland?-No, not for a few years back.
12,720. But did it do so at the time?-No; some men went to Greenland immediately after that, and were not fined. I think the fines were imposed on these six men in order to try to stop them from going there; but it did not have that effect, and it was not attempted again.
12,721. Why did you not get back your fine, when it was repaid to Williamson and the other men?-I never asked it back.
12,722. Have you or anybody else been fined for that, or for selling your goods to other people, since 1855?-No.
12,723. Except on that one occasion in 1858, when your father was fined for selling eggs?-Yes.
12,724. Can you sell your eggs to the lighthouse keepers now, or to any person you please?-Yes.
12,725. You are not bound now to sell them to Mr. Umphray?- Not so far as I know.
12,726. Have you sold eggs to Mr. Robertson"s man within the last year or two?-Yes.
12,727. How do you sell your beasts?-To Mr. Adie.
12,728. Can you not sell them to any person you like?-Yes; but the cash must be returned to him.
12,729. You mean the cash must be handed to because you must pay your debts?-Yes.
12,730. Is there anything else you wish to say about Skerries?- Nothing, except that I may state, on behalf of all the men who are in the town now from Skerries, that they would like their freedom to fish for any man who would pay them best, and be allowed to get whatever they require from the cheapest market.
12,731. Supposing you had your freedom, is there one to whom you could sell your fish for a better price than Mr. Adie allows?- There are no others at the present time, so far as I know; but opposition might arise if there were more buyers than one, and if we had our freedom.
Lerwick, January 24, 1872, PETER HENDERSON, examined.
12,732. Are you a fisherman and farmer in Skerries?-I am.
12,733. How long have you been there?-This is the second year since I came there, but I was born in Skerries. I have been living in the North Isles for about twelve years.
12,734. Are you bound to fish for Mr. Adie?-Yes.
12,735. How do you know that?-I just know it in the same way that the rest of the tenants know it. He is our tacksmaster, and of course we have to fish for him.
12,736. When you took your bit of land two years ago from him, were you told that you must fish for him?-Yes. Mr. Umphray told me so.
12,737. Did Mr. Umphray let the land and agree with you about it?-Yes.
12,738. He told you at the time that you must fish for Mr. Adie, and you entered into that agreement, quite understanding what it was?-Yes.
12,739. Do you take your supplies from Mr. Adie"s shop, and settle up every year at settling time?-Yes. I have always had a balance to get then.
12,740. Did you get money besides that in the course of the season if you wanted it?-Yes, when I asked for it.
12,741. Did you ask for much?-No; perhaps for 1 or so, when I required it.
12,742. Were you at liberty to buy your supplies at any other place you liked?-Yes, if I had money to give for them.
12,743. Could you have got money?-I did not ask it for that.
12,744. If you had asked for money with which to go and buy your meal and tea in Lerwick, would you have got it from Mr.
Umphray?-I don"t know that. If he had known it was my intention to go with it to other parties, I don"t think he would have given it to me, because he would have wanted for himself any profit there was upon it.
12,745. Have you any reason for supposing so?-I have only my own reasons for supposing it, and I would think so.
12,746. Has he ever told you that he expects you to buy your goods at his shop?-No. He has never said anything about that.
12,747. Has he ever had any occasion to tell you that?-No.
12,748. Do you think he would tell you that if you went and got your goods in Lerwick or in Whalsay?-I don"t know.
12,749. Have you ever been fined for selling your produce to anybody else or for fishing for another than Mr. Adie?-No.
12,750. Do you want to have liberty to fish for another?-Of course we should like to fish for any one who would pay us most.
12,751. But you came voluntarily to Skerries two years ago, knowing that you could fish only for Mr. Adie there
12,752. Why do you object to that now?-I don"t object to it, only I should like if I could get more for my produce.
12,753. Do you think you could get more for it from any one else?-I don"t think I could get more for it at the present time, because Mr. Adie is paying as high price as any other man.
12,754. Why did you go to Skerries?-Circ.u.mstances led me to go. I could not keep the land I was on, because the rent was too high. That was in Fetlar.
12,755. Do you get your land cheaper in Skerries?-I have only half a house and land in Skerries, but I could not get that chance in Fetlar. I had a heavy tack of land there, and I was not able to pay for it.
12,756. Do you know anything about the price and quality of provisions in Skerries?-They are dearer than in Lerwick. I bought a boll of meal in Lerwick yesterday from R. & C.
Robertson"s, to take home with me, and paid 19s. 6d. for it, while the price in Skerries just now is 23s. I have not bought so much there lately, but I know by the peck price that that is the price of it. I bought a peck lately, and it was marked down to me at 1s. 4d.
12,757. Would it not have been less if you had bought a boll?-It might have been a little less, but not much.
12,758. To whom do you sell your cattle?-To Mr. Adie.
12,759. Do all the people in Skerries sell their cattle to him?- They generally go to the roup at Voe, and have a chance of selling them there.
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