12,668. Did you get a receipt from Mr. Robertson for the money?-No.
12,669. At what season of the year was that?-In January.
12,670. And you think that was about four years ago?-Yes.
12,671. That would probably be about January 1868?-I think so, but I cannot exactly say.
12,672. Did you buy the meal from Mr. Robertson in your own name?-One part in my own name, and the other part in the name of my father, John Hutchison.
12,673. Who gave the order to Mr. Robertson?-I did.
12,674. Did you tell him that one half of the meal was for yourself and one half for your father?-Yes.
12,675. Do you know whether the purchase was entered in his books?-I cannot say, for I paid the cash down.
12,676. Do you know anything about the quality of that meal?-It was just about the same quality as we could get from Mr. Adie.
12,677. Was it before or after you got the meal from Mr.
Robertson, that you bought the sack at 61s. from Mr. Umphray?- It was after, about two months after at the furthest.
12,678. Did you say anything to him about the price when you got it?-I did; and Mr. Umphray told me he must sell it at the invoice price which his master sent to him.
12,679. Did you take the meal at that price?-I was obliged to do so, when I could not make a better of it.
12,680. Could you not have gone and got some more from Mr.
Robertson?-I could; but I had no expectation of having anything at the end of the time with which to pay him.
12,681. Did you think Mr. Robertson would not have given it to you on credit?-I don"t think it, for I could not have asked it.
12,682. Do you think Mr. Robertson would have given you the meal as cheap if you had been buying it on credit?-He would have given it to me cheaper on credit than Mr. Adie did.
12,683. Is there any other time that you remember, when you bought meal or any other goods at Adie"s shop, and when you could have got them cheaper elsewhere?-That has happened every time.
12,684. But did you ever try at what price you could get your goods at another place in the same way as you did at that time?- I have done so at times. We can get as many sillock hooks at Messrs. Hay"s shop, at Simbister in Whalsay, for 1d. as we can get beside us for 11/2d.
12,685. Do you generally buy your sillock hooks at Whalsay?- No; we generally go for them to the store where we are supplied. I could also get washing soda in Lerwick for 1d., and we pay 11/2d.
for it at Skerries. I bought 14 lbs. of it in Lerwick yesterday at 1d.
a lb. The last I bought at Skerries was about two months ago, and it was marked down to me at 11/2d. If I were buying as much as 14 lbs. at a time in Skerries, I would get no discount upon it; I would still be charged 11/2d. per lb.
12,686. Do many of the people in Skerries go for their supplies to other places?-No; they all go to Adie"s store for them.
12,687. Why do they do that when the prices are so high as you say?-Because they are bound so far to do it, in this way: that they fish for him, and all their earnings go to him, and they must go to the store for whatever supplies they require.
12,688. Do you mean that they are obliged to get their supplies on credit, and that they have credit nowhere else?-They cannot have credit anywhere else until they see whether they have any money to get, and then they can come to Lerwick or any other place with their money; but they cannot do that at any other time.
12,689. Are you at liberty to sell the produce of your farm to any person you please?-No. We are under the restriction to take it all to Mr. Adie"s store.
12,690. Who told you that?-Mr. Umphray, Mr. Adie"s factor.
12,691. Is there anybody else you could sell it to?-No; except in the summer time, when Mr. Robertson"s man is there.
12,692. Have any of you offered to sell to him?-Yes.
12,693. Have you been prevented from doing so?-Yes; we have been prevented in this way, that we were obliged to go to Mr. Adie with all that we had, or else we would have been put out of our crofts.
12,694. Did anybody ever interfere with you selling to Mr.
Robertson?-If it had been known that it had been done, they would have interfered; but no man, so far as I know, ever put the produce of his farm or of his fishing past Mr. Adie.
12,695. Do you know of any person being fined for selling to Mr.
Robertson"s man?-No; but I know that my father was fined 2s.
6d. for selling a dozen of eggs to a man at the lighthouse station.
That was in 1858.
12,696. Was that by Mr. Umphray?-Yes.
12,697. Was he Mr. Adie"s factor at that time?-Yes.
12,698. Do you know of anybody having been fined in the same way since?-No; except men going to Greenland, or going any other way where they think they can be better. They are fined in this way, that every man, young and old, on the island, is obliged to fish for Mr. Adie.
12,699. But if a man goes to Greenland he is not on the island?- No; and it is for that reason he is fined.
12,700. But if he is not on the island, how can he be fined?-He comes back in the winter.
12,701. Who has been fined in that way?-I was fined, for one, in 1855.
12,702. Have you been at the Greenland fishing since that?-No.
12,703. Have you been away from the island since?-No.
12,704. Why have you not gone since?-Because I became a tenant of Mr. Adie then, and I had to stick by that and fish for him.
12,705. Were you not a tenant of his at the time when you were fined?-No.
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12,706. Then why did you pay the fine?-I must either pay the fine, or my father would have been warned away for me.
12,707. Were you told that your father would be put away if you did not pay the fine?-Yes.
12,708. How much did you pay?-2.
12,709. To whom did you pay it?-To Mr. Adie himself.
12,710. Did you get a receipt for it?-No.
12,711. Was it put down to your account?-Yes.
12,712. Was it ever repaid to you?-It was never repaid to me, but these fines were repaid to some others. It was repaid to Andrew Williamson, for one. There were six men belonging to Skerries who went to Greenland in 1855, and they were all fined 2 each.