Scalloway, January 22, 1872, Mrs. ANN LEASK or INKSTER, examined.
11,671. You live in Scalloway?-I do.
11,672. Have you sometimes knitted hosiery goods for sale?-Yes; I have knitted some for Mr. Sinclair.
11,673. Have you been paid for them in money or in goods?- When I knitted goods for sale I was paid for them in money. I knitted some for Dr. Hamilton, Bressay, and I was paid money for them. He had got an order for them from the south.
11,674. But when you sold them to merchants, you were paid in goods?-Yes; I never asked them for any money, because I did not require it. I always took what I required in cottons, cloth, and so on. Besides, I knew it was not the practice to give money.
11,675. Did you sell your own knitting?-No. I knitted for Mr.
Sinclair, except what I got orders to knit from the south.
11,676. Have you an aunt who knits also?-Yes.
11,677. Does she sometimes sell shawls made with her own worsted?-She did formerly, but she does not do so now.
11,678. Do you think the merchants make any profit by the shawls they buy?-I cannot say; perhaps they do.
11,679. They say they sell them to the merchants in the south at exactly the same rate as they buy them here. Do you know of any case where a merchant has sold a shawl at a great profit?-No.
11,680. Do you know of a merchant buying a shawl from you for 15s. or 16s., and then selling it within a few minutes after that for double the money?-No. I do not remember any case of that kind.
11,681. Did you ever hear of such a case?-Not so far as I recollect.
11,682. Did you or your aunt ever sell a shawl at 15s., or about that price, which was sold immediately afterwards, in the same shop, to a gentleman for about twice the money?-I never saw that done.
My aunt may have done so for anything I know, for I was not always with her. I was in service for some time, and I cannot answer for what she may have done at that time. My aunt"s name is Ann Williamson; she lives in Scalloway.
Scalloway, January 22, 1872, Mrs. ELIZABETH IRVINE or SMITH, examined.
11,683. You live in Scalloway?-Yes.
11,684. Have you been in the habit of knitting?-Yes, a little. I have knitted for several people, but chiefly for Mr. Sinclair. I have knitted for him for eleven years, and I keep an account with him.
11,685. Do you get what goods you want out of his shop?-Yes.
I asked for work from him when I was in great need, and I got supplies and worsted, and whatever I asked from him.
11,686. Has that system of dealing been going on for eleven years?-Yes.
11,687. Have you always got your supplies from his shop?-I always got what I asked.
11,688. Have you got money from him when you wanted it?-Yes.
The first I got was 2s., and the last I got was 10s.
11,689. What was that for?-I just got it on the work I was doing.
11,690. When did you get the 10s.?-It was before you came to Shetland; I cannot tell how many weeks it was ago. I sent off a score of veils to my sister-in-law in Lerwick, and told her to ask a few shillings for me. She did so, and Mr. Sinclair gave her 10s.
11,691. Had she to ask more than once for the money?-No; she just took in the veils, and he gave her the money, so far as I am aware.
11,692. Did you tell her to say what you wanted the money for?-I did not.
11,693. Had you ever got as much money as that before?-No; but whatever money I asked I got, from 6d. upwards.
11,694. Have you ever asked for a sixpence or a shilling?-I have asked for it many a time and got it and I generally got a little more than I asked.
11,695. Was 2s. the next largest sum you got before the 10s.?- No, I had got 3s., and 4s. 6d., and so on.
11,696. Did you want that money to pay your rent with?-I have a pension of 11s. a quarter from the Merchant Seamen"s Fund, and that pays my rent The pension is paid to me in Lerwick by Mr.
Stewart.
11,697. Do you always get payment of that yourself when you go to Lerwick?-Yes, except sometimes when I cannot go, and then I send a paper to my brother in Lerwick, and he gets the money for me. My brother is in Mr. Harrison"s store.
11,698. Did you ever have occasion to barter any of the goods you got for provisions?-I never did that except once when a woman took a quarter of a pound of tea from me and gave me milk for it, as I had not [Page 287] the money at the time. She was well satisfied with Mr. Sinclair"s tea., and told me to get it from him. It was the same to her as money.
Scalloway, January 22, 1872, JOHN THOMSON, examined.
11,699. You are a shopkeeper and grocer at Sandsound in the parish of Sandsting?-Yes, in a small way.
11,700. How far is that from here?-About 10 miles when we go by land, but it is a little shorter when we go by boat.
11,701. On whose property is your shop?-On the property of Mr.
Greig of Reawick, and Mr. Umphray is trustee for it.
11,702. How far are you from Reawick?-About 3 miles.
11,703. Do you do anything in the fishing?-A little. I buy fish in winter and spring, but not in summer. I don"t have the chance of buying any in summer. The place is a little inland, and there is not much fishing carried on there, except in bad weather in winter and spring when the men go to fish in the bays.
11,704. Do you cure the fish yourself?-Yes.
11,705. How much may you buy in the course of a winter and spring?-In some years I have bought as much as nearly 7 tons of dry fish, cod and ling, and in other years as low as 2 tons.
11,706. Do you settle with the men for these fish when they are delivered to you?-Yes.
11,707. Do they take the price in money or in goods?-I give them money unless they want goods, but if they want goods they get them.
11,708. Do you ask them if they want anything?-Sometimes, and at other times if they don"t ask for goods I give them the price.
11,709. You deal both in groceries and soft goods?-Yes, but very little in soft goods, except at times.
11,710. Do some of the men run accounts with you?-Some of them do until about 1st April when they are going to Faroe or to the south; but with others settle just at the time when they get the goods or when they give me their fish. That is done either way as the men prefer it themselves.
11,711. Do you run accounts with the fishermen for supplies at other seasons of the year?-Sometimes, when they are a little hard up in the summer time, I give them a little supply either of meal or tea, or anything else, to oblige them; but I don"t like to do that to a great extent. I cannot do it very well.
11,712. Do the fishermen generally go for their supplies in summer to the larger merchants?-Yes; those who go to the Faroe fishing generally do so.