11,578. Have you ever had occasion to exchange any of the goods which you got from the merchants for your hosiery?-I have exchanged tea for meal with the country people round about, but nothing else. I took more tea from the merchant than I intended to use myself, and I have given it in exchange for meal several times.
11,579. Do you generally take a quant.i.ty of tea from Mr.
Sinclair?-Yes. When Mr. Sinclair bought my goods, as he always did when I offered them to him, he never refused to give me anything in his shop that asked from him, except worsted. I once asked worsted from him, and I did not get it.
11,580. But you got everything except worsted or money?-Yes.
11,581. Have you lately taken more tea than you required, and exchanged it for meal?-I have not done it this year, because I sold a shawl to Mr. Garriock, which supplied me with money in the meantime, and paid my rent and some other little things besides.
11,582. When you want money, do you generally get it in that way?-When I want money, I usually give a shawl to Mr.
Garriock, who will sell it for me when he has the chance. If he cannot get the shawl sold at the time when we need the money, we go to out-door work; but Mr. Garriock is kind enough to let the shawl lie until he can get it sold for us.
11,583. But one way in which you get money is by selling the tea which you have got in exchange for your hosiery?-I have never sold tea for money-only for meal.
11,584. But when you have no meal, and no money with which to buy it, that is the way you take to get it?-Yes
Scalloway, January 22, 1872, MARY COUTTS, examined.
11,585. You and your sister have lived for a long time in Scalloway with your father and aunt?-Yes.
11,586. Are they old people?-Yes.
11,587 Have you and your sister been their chief support by your knitting?-Yes, and by other work as well.
11,588. What kind of knitting have you done?-Shawls and veils.
11,589. Do you knit with your own wool, or have you got it out from the merchants?-The most of it belonged to the Lerwick merchants. I knitted it and took it to them.
11,590. How were you paid for your work?-In tea and goods.
11,591. Did you ever get money?-No.
11,592. Did you ever ask for it?-Yes.
11,593. Did you never get 6d. at a time?-I have got 3d., but that was the most. I once asked 1s. from Mr. Robert Linklater, to pay for mending my boots; but it was refused. That was about eight years ago.
11,594. And I suppose that did not encourage you to ask it again?-It did not. We ceased to knit for him.
11,595. Did you ask for money from anybody else?-Yes.
11,596. Did you get a little?-Nothing except a mere trifle, perhaps 11/2d. or 2d. from Mr. Sinclair.
11,597. Was that merely a balance that you had to get on your knitting?-No.
11,598. Have you an account there?-Yes. There is an account in his books.
11,599 All your knitting goes into that account and all your out-takes go into it too?-Yes.
11,600. You are just paid in goods, with 1d. or 2d. in cash now and then?-Yes.
11,601. How do you get your provisions, such as meal and potatoes?-We give tea to the farmers, and get meal and potatoes for it. We have sometimes to go to the west side, to Walls and Sandness, for that. Our aunt Elizabeth Coutts, has done that for us. She has not been to Walls and Sandness for the last two years, but she went regularly before. It was only for our own house, not for other people, that she took the tea there and got the meal and potatoes in exchange.
11,602. During the last two years how have you got your meal and provisions?-We have knitted for Mr. Moncrieff last year.
11,603. And therefore you did not need to barter your tea?-No.
11,604. Did you get the full price for your tea from the farmers?- I suppose we did sometimes, but I could not say. They did not weigh out the meat and potatoes which they gave in exchange; they merely gave a little for the tea which my aunt gave them. I have known her go as far as Papa Stour, twenty-four miles away, to make these exchanges. That was where most of her friends were.
11,605. Have you often had to barter your goods for less than they were worth?-Sometimes, if there had been 21/2 yards of cotton lying and a peck of meal came in, we would give it for the meal.
The cotton would be worth 6d. it yard, or 15d.; and the meal would be [Page 285] worth 1s. I remember doing that about three years ago; but we frequently sold the goods for less than they had cost us in Lerwick.
11,606. Do you make fine shawls?-Yes.
11,607. How much do you get for knitting a shawl of 21/2 yards square?-10s. 6d.; and I have got as high 6s. from Mr Moncrieff, but the worsted was his own.
11,608. What was the cause of that difference between 10s. 6d.
and 16s.?-The finer the worsted is, the more we get for knitting it.
11,609. How many cuts of Shetland worsted would it take to make such a shawl?-About 34 or 35. The shawl I got 16s. for took about 7 oz. of Scotch worsted.
11,610. How long would it take you to make it?-My sister and I are not in very good health, and we do not work very steadily, but it would be some weeks from the time we got the worsted until we returned it.
11,611. Do you know what these shawls would sell for?-No,
11,612. Have you never sold a shawl of that kind yourself?-I have sold shawls to Mr. Sinclair of our own spinning, and got 18s., 19s., and 20s. for them.
11,613. Were these shawls very much the same as that which you got 16s. for?-No, they were not so fine.
11,614. Would they be much the same as those you got 10s. 6d. for knitting?-Yes; they were quite as fine.
11,615. And you would sell them for 18s. or 20s. in goods?-Yes.
11,616. What would the wool of one of those shawls you sold to Mr. Sinclair cost you?-It would cost 1s. 6d. per lb., and 1/2 lb.
would make one of them.
11,617. That would be 9d. for the wool. How long would the spinning take you in the way you work?-Perhaps more than a week. We have to go to the hill for our peats and turf, and that takes up part of our time.
11,618. Which do you think pays you best,-getting 10s. 6d. for knitting the shawl, or spinning your own wool and selling it?- Spinning our own wool pays best.
11,619. Do you sell your shawls yourself?-Sometimes; but our aunt generally goes with them.
11 620. Have you asked for money yourself and been refused it?-Yes; I was only refused it once.
11,621. What was the largest sum of money you ever got from the merchants?-3d. or 4d.
11,622. Did your aunt sometimes succeed better in getting money than you did?-Sometimes. When visitors were here she would; she always sold them to them.
11,623. But when she sold to a merchant, has she often got more money than you have mentioned just now?-No; when she sold to the merchants, and did not want to take goods for the whole, she took a line. It was from Mr. Sinclair that she got lines, and when we wanted goods we took back the line and got them. We once got lines from Mr. Tulloch also. We only got goods for them, not cash.